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    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

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    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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Info brock wagner bananna project ? and nonsense.

deborahbroadus said:
Info about what? Two overly testosteroned gentlemen fighting about who said what to who?
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I just see kyle fitting that description here . seems this thread is a result of him being but hurt over being banned on an other forum for not getting his way.
lucille said:
My guess is that this is a pre planned drama to advertise this other board. :rolleyes:
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This is just sad lucille, maybe u need to lay of the conspiracy theories for a while as just this post is rather sad.

Show Me said:
After doing a little reading around on another forum I feel the OP is very jealous of Brock. Brock has the right to sell his snakes for whatever he likes and it's no ones right to know how many he bananas he owns our how many he's hatching...that's part of business strategy.
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Seems like it myself, if i were selling something at a price of course id sell to friends and such at a discount , who wont?
 
RichsBallPythons said:
Thats why their called BUDDIES. We help out those that don't go running their mouths Like they know everything about snakes.

Cant pay his price go elsewhere, Not hard to realize that.
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:thumbsup: Well Said Rich :thumbsup:

Im still trying to figure why this thread was started? Kyle were your feeling's hurt?
In all honesty within the thread you've started trying to make Brock look bad you've made yourself look not only immature but come off as a crybaby.

I agree with the one's that said there's some past history between you and Brock
Yes I understand you asked a simple question... But I mean the rumor's thing blow's things out of the water... Maybe there's a reason the "other Breeders" you heard thing's didn't make it public nor run there mouth about it Yet you did...

There Brock's animals he produced them he can sell them for any price he wants I mean if he wants to sell you one for 15k then turn around and give one away to a good Buddy who :censored: care's? It's Brock's choice their his animals if he wants to stockpile them for the next 1-5 or even 15 year's WHO :censored: CARE'S he has every right to do so

SMFH what a waste of server-space and waste of time I spent reading this non-sense....
 
It seems to me like whenever people from other boards bring their stuff here, it's always Springer-esque. Last month it was the retic guys, this month it's these guys. Are the other boards really so drama-filled?

I agree that the OP was wrong to post this here. Clearly there is some history between the two.

Every time something like this happens, it makes me appreciate Fauna that much more.
 
laterob said:
It seems to me like whenever people from other boards bring their stuff here, it's always Springer-esque. Last month it was the retic guys, this month it's these guys. Are the other boards really so drama-filled?

I agree that the OP was wrong to post this here. Clearly there is some history between the two.

Every time something like this happens, it makes me appreciate Fauna that much more.
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I don't necessarily think it's the quality of any other forum or lack thereof. I enjoy other forums as well as Fauna, but each has there own share of cry babies, trouble makers, etc...
 
lucille said:
My guess is that this is a pre planned drama to advertise this other board. :rolleyes:
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And this is just mind boggling Lucille. One would think that if this were a marketing strategy by Bush League, they would choose someone other than a banned member to represent them.
 
I think this is such a ridiculous post. This isn't to warn people about Brock's business practices, it's to air a personal problem with him. It's obvious from Kyle's posts that he has something personal against Brock, and I think the fact that other people have spoken on Brock's behalf proves this is more than likely an isolated event. It sounds like since Kyle got banned on the other site, he came here to whine about it since he couldn't do so there anymore. Too bad his plan backfired, because it doesn't seem like anyone believes these claims about Brock are legitimate.
 
PS- Kyle, I would also suggest using spell check and proper grammar. I have a hard time taking anyone seriously on the BOI when they cannot manage simple sentences. Typing your posts into MicrosoftWord and using spell/grammar check is not that difficult, nor does it take a lot of time. I try not to be a grammar nazi (well, not TOO often, lol) but when you come to a place like the BOI, I think it should be taken more seriously than chat or just a regular discussion because it involves more business discussion, and you should be more professional in your writing.
 
ShortStack said:
it doesn't seem like anyone believes these claims about Brock are legitimate.
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I didn't see anybody saying the claim isn't legitimate...heck, Brock didn't even deny it. It seems more like an acceptance of the response, due to the circumstances.
I think Dennis' description fit pretty well, based on what has been shown so far.
 
Wait, people invested in high end morph projects don't know how to spell the names of ubiquitous fruits? I'm so confused...
 
You were just asking a simple question.
You never started rumors.
you just repeated what was said to you.....huh!?!

1. You "repeated" rumors. How do you expect the guy to act towards you?
2. If there were rumors and you were repeating them. Were you truly interested in spending 10-15k?
3. did you want to know if they were the same to quell the rumors? or did you want to know because you wanted to spend 10-15k on a guy whose rumors you were propagating?
 
Oh my word. I can believe I just read through 6 pages of this. Somebody book these two on Springer or Maury. My advice for both Kyle and Brock would be to simply break the cycle, engage the silence, and leave the drama behind. There are plenty of other people in the industry for you both to deal with. The "he said/he said" stuff isn't going to really get anything resolved.
 
I too just read through the 6 pages of posts and really have no idea why this was posted in the BOI. If you have personal drama, keep it between the two of you. If it was a legitimate sale/transaction going on and it went sour then by all means, please share your experience. This drama and he said/he said crap is outrageous. If you didn't PERSONALLY have the experiences you HEARD about with Brock then why repeat it. If I repeated EVERYTHING someone else told me, my life would be full of this redundant drama. If you wanted to know if there was a difference, I generally ask any snake questions to someone I am friendly with on here or do my own research (in the end i learn more than I had originally searched for)... all 6 of these pages are unnecessary and didn't prove one thing except that Kyle is a whiney cry baby and didn't like his response of ---- off.. He obviously had a good reason to tell you to do so. If you are interested in the morph, find one from someone else. If he wants to sell it to his buddy for a cheaper rate, good for him for having friends/buddies to do so. I like to think I have some buddies on here that cut us a good deal on things if we need them because we are loyal and honest and speak highly of them and refer them to others... that's why we all need to come together and support eachother and stop ripping eachother apart... GROW UP already and follow what your parents should have taught you.. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"...

And Brock, stop egging him on... if hes unhappy let him be, but resorting to violence along the lines of telling him to his face doesn't speak highly of your character either... Say your peace and let him make himself look more ridiculous about this entire situation.. his post was very unnecessary and this entire thread is just silly...


But I have to say it was a great source of entertainment in the time it took me to read it... :thumbsup:
 
well i too read all of this ... and after it i went on brock's website & i think i will be a future customer of his... nice website, nice snakes, & i love the blogs !! thanks kyle for promoting it !!
 
So wait.... you mean to tell us that Brock isn't telling everyone how many of what morphs he has? He's Keeping secrets about genetics? He's holding back tons of babies to control the market with AND he is giving his buddies better deals!?!

So this kind of stuff goes on behind the scenes of ball python breeding!?!?! I'M SHOCKED! (Not)

Were these really secrets you have JUST RECENTLY discovered Kyle? Or maybe you think Brock is the ONLY one?

WOW... petty to say the least man. And a waste of server space imo!
 
khoffman said:
If i wanted to buy a bananna i could easily get one but im not payin 12.5k for one when there selling em to thier buddies for less im sure.
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It looks like you're well on your way to being one of Brock's buddies!! A few more rumors, harassing e-mails and BOI posts should do it. Isn't that how we all become someones buddy?
 
I just want to say Brock is the man! Hey Brock can I be your buddy? I need a Banana. Haha what a joke stuff likes this makes me question weather I ever want to be to successful in this hobby. This little Troll needs to mind his own. Brocks reputation and snakes speak for themselves and if I had the money I would have no trouble dropping 13K on a Banana. Sorry you have to deal with this crap Brock what a joke.
 
I would also like to add I have dealt with Brock for 3 years and have nothing but respect for him and he has always treated me more as a friend than a customer. He goes out of his way to make sure you are happy with every purchase. Stand up guy is all I have to say.
 
You don't have to be anyones buddy in this business if you have money. I'm sure if I had the money I did a few weeks ago and sold a few more 1000$ in animals all I'd have to do is call him up tell him I want one and itd be a done deal. That's the way it works money talks
 
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