hhmoore
tired & cranky shadow
I just sent Lynn a message on FaceBook, notifying him of this situation & inviting him to comment here.
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Posted 12/19/2024.
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I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?
So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.
But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.
Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.
I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.
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Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.
And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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Responding to email notices you receive.
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In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.
Bad Guy Use caution with Texasrattleandboas (David Sackary)
- Thread starter MIchaelfm
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Wait a sec....
I find this to be an interesting comment
I would love to see that email, because I have the reciept for it. I can also tell you where in the White Plains show their table was when I purchased it AND from which member of the Boamaster staff (reddish blonde hair, late teens - early 20's ish, roughly 5'9, but i don't know his name).
Further, i believe that I have an email from Mark Venhorst confirming the month that the litter dropped.
Mike, apologies, but it took me awhile to find the reciept. My basement was a wreck after the storm. Found it 2 days ago, its going out in the mail today.
I find this to be an interesting comment
I would love to see that email, because I have the reciept for it. I can also tell you where in the White Plains show their table was when I purchased it AND from which member of the Boamaster staff (reddish blonde hair, late teens - early 20's ish, roughly 5'9, but i don't know his name).
Further, i believe that I have an email from Mark Venhorst confirming the month that the litter dropped.
Mike, apologies, but it took me awhile to find the reciept. My basement was a wreck after the storm. Found it 2 days ago, its going out in the mail today.
hhmoore
tired & cranky shadow
Mr Masters recent outbursts certainly throw an interesting twist to this...
I, for one, find it difficult to lend any credibility to a person that makes a rash of profanity filled posts such as the ones just rained on this site by MIchaelfm (though I guess we now know what the f stands for).
However, it also doesn't make Mr Zackary's statements credible by default. He's made incorrect statements...and maybe he just didn't know any better; but some of his other claims have been highly questionable, and he's shown ZERO evidence to back his words. I know he said he needed some time to get everything together, but we're still waiting...if the proof exists, it should be posted.
I, for one, find it difficult to lend any credibility to a person that makes a rash of profanity filled posts such as the ones just rained on this site by MIchaelfm (though I guess we now know what the f stands for).
However, it also doesn't make Mr Zackary's statements credible by default. He's made incorrect statements...and maybe he just didn't know any better; but some of his other claims have been highly questionable, and he's shown ZERO evidence to back his words. I know he said he needed some time to get everything together, but we're still waiting...if the proof exists, it should be posted.
I completely understand what you’re saying Harald, and I agree.
I'm not taking anyone's side, I'm merely proactively addressing the statement regarding the alleged email from Boamaster stating that the animal wasn't his. Mike’s credibility is being questioned regarding the animal’s origins/ genetics, so I felt it necessary to speak up, being that I’m the one who sold it to him. The trickle down theory works all too well, and I don’t want my integrity/ credibility eventually being called into question as a result of their deal going awry. It was purchased from Boamaster as a Male Coral Lipstick Albino Jungle and was subsequently sold to Mike as such.
Further, to be perfectly honest, I have a genuine interest in seeing that email to determine if I need pursue further actions with the breeder of the animal and (or) avoid them altogether in the future.
Below, you’ll notice two different handwriting's on the receipt, I filled in my personal information at the table, they (Boamaster) filled in the rest. So without further interruption, here are pics of the receipt and email trail that I had mentioned.
Funny how this all went!I just got a phone call from Mike Masters and he is upset someone.is using his account i guess.He has been banned for swearing or dogging this site.
i have had 4-5 phone talks with Mike and have a hard time he was banned.
Dave"Chris"? Thanks for the intelligent remark.I dont get hurt nby your remarks of intelligence and would say the same thing about you after reading 300 emails from you.
Anyways,i feel the need to speak up and will give any emails i have thats needed.
I'm not real sure what the thread is about anymore,the Dave being Chris from Mi or mike and Chris having bad dealings?
I have no intensions of being a liar for anyone on here!! If either one is the rip off or not who they are suppose to be,kick them off for sure !!
Rich
i have had 4-5 phone talks with Mike and have a hard time he was banned.
Dave"Chris"? Thanks for the intelligent remark.I dont get hurt nby your remarks of intelligence and would say the same thing about you after reading 300 emails from you.
Anyways,i feel the need to speak up and will give any emails i have thats needed.
I'm not real sure what the thread is about anymore,the Dave being Chris from Mi or mike and Chris having bad dealings?
I have no intensions of being a liar for anyone on here!! If either one is the rip off or not who they are suppose to be,kick them off for sure !!
Rich
texasrattleandboas
New member
Look Richard I have nothing bad to say about you. We became friends over the few months and I helped you on a few things you were having problems with. I still don't have nothing bad to say about you. But you got dragged into this maybe that was my doing? But I came to you and asked for advice and you gave it. Anyways that's done and over with the fact of the matter is I gave Mike the option to return my boas and i'll send his back. I even offered to ship them first just send mine back. No he didn't want that he expected me to give him 8 boas for 2 motleys that I still don't know what they are. Mike forged the certificates. Now i'm stuck with to motleys that are plain hypos's. Mark at Boa Master even said himself that Lynn don't even own a Albino Motley het anery. They live down the road from each other. He said them animals are worth nothing. Now that's funny he's banned for dogging the site and he blames someone for using his account. All I'm hearing are excuses. I would received texts at 3 or 4 am then I would confront him about the text he would deny ever sending them. Now someone signed into his acct. Let's get real here. Thanks for showing your reciept on the coral albino it still don't add up for my boas he has right now. Now guys or gals listen I f I intended to screw Mike why did I ship first? After disagreeing with the trade trying to fix it why did I turn around and send back 3 boas if I planned to rip the guy off. I have done several trades and not ripped no one off period. I'm always the one to ship first. Come on think about it people! It's like this Mikes thinks i scammed him Well I think the same thing he scammed me and I have the proof of it. He forged the certificates he admitted it enough said on my behalf. I'm done with this thread if you have any questions please pm me and I'll answer any questions you have. I have many references from other big breeders's that I did trades with and never scammed them at all.
I am beginning to feel like David's been scammed......
texasrattleandboas
New member
Thank you Angie that means allot I mean come on guys he gave me a good trader rating. The only way I would of found out that these motleys were not what they were claimed to be was from a conversation I had with Mark at Boa Master's. I was going to trade him the motleys for some caging supplies. So I called him and tried to work a deal out with him. As soon as I said the boa's were produced by "Lynn Robertson" he quickly said don't want them. I then begin to asked him questions about these two boa's I got from Mike. He said David you got ripped off I have known Lynn Robertson for 20 year's and hedon't have no Motley 100% het anery or a sun glow het anery. Lynn has a table at the Hamburgs Reptile show and Mark said he has been to his tabel and never seen a motley het anery breed able or a sunglow het anery breed able.
So I asked him maybe he didn't bring them to the show he replied David I've been in this business for many year's and have known him. He is a small timer I've got 1000's of snakes and I don't even own a sunglow 100% het anery or a Motley het anery breedable. He said I have a bigger business then him. I was furious to hear this from Mark then I asked him aboutt he coral albino he said he he have to see pictures. He said he didn't produce it, because he knows he never sold to a Mike Master. Now I know why he said this because Mike told me he bought this from Mark himself and yet to receive paper's. So I E-Mailed Mark and asked do you ship receipts with your boas and or paper's. His response was if the buyer requested it he will do it.
Now I contact Mike asking him about these Motley's and remember I'm pretty angry right now. I told him I talked to Mark and these Motleys are not what your claiming them to be Mike. Mike said they are don't worry about it he seen the parent's on site. So I decided to contact Lynn Robertson myself not a easy tasks. Getting this guy on the phone or to reply to a E-Mail. So finally after 30 or more attempts to contact him he finally calls me back. I asked him right off the back how do you know Mike Master's his reply was from a trade we did. I said ok what type of boas did you trade him. He replied a few motley's I asked him what type of motley's are they? He said well what ones did you get I told him the ones with a stripe tail. He said right away oh that was a motley het anery x dh sunglow! I said wait DH Sunglow my paper's say Sunglow het anery. He said no they were motley het anery x dh sunglow. I was so upset I said then why did you type these paper's out saying it was a motley het anery x sunglow. This is were I knew something was up he replied I didn't create any paper's with them. I said wait you did not create any genectic forms for these motley's? He replied no never did.
So Mike wanted me to send him 8 boa's! The Ghost 66% het albino, Ghost male , Anery het albino (sold to me as a female but was a male) female jungleglow , 2 hypo het albino's (poss supers) keep in mind he already had my two salmons early 2010 female valued at 850.00 shipped , male 750.00 shipped is what I paid for them both. Now I get too keep 2 motleys that were not worth much because I didn't even know the genetics of these boas. Also the coral albino valued at 325.00 he said he paid Mark at boa master 500.00. So yes I kept my jungleglow, two hypo het albino's. I sent him back the female 66% het albino female , plain male ghost, and anery male.
When Mike was confronted on the Motleys he created this Post about me. Because he knew the truth was about be reviled. I know this I never took from anyone on here, I have shipped first in this deal. I got stuck with Motleys that were not what they claimed to be I wasn't giving the choice because paper's were forged. Lynn Robertson said himself he didn't create no paper's on them. Mike admitted he made these paper's up he should of let me make the decision if I wanted to still go with the trade. He should of told me that he created these paper's why didn't he? I think because he didn't want me to dig deeper to find the truth. You guys can judge me however you want. I know I have done business with many people and have never had this problem. What really puts the icing on the cake is he gave me a good trader rating. But as soon as I found out that these paper's were forged we all ended up here and he posted the thread on me. I can only move on from this and learn from my mistakes. I'm sorry Richard with allreptiles if I caused any hard feelings the things I have said in the past were said out of anger. I'm also sorry to the mods for using the S**T in my previous post that you gave me a warning on.
Highest Regards
David Zackary
So I asked him maybe he didn't bring them to the show he replied David I've been in this business for many year's and have known him. He is a small timer I've got 1000's of snakes and I don't even own a sunglow 100% het anery or a Motley het anery breedable. He said I have a bigger business then him. I was furious to hear this from Mark then I asked him aboutt he coral albino he said he he have to see pictures. He said he didn't produce it, because he knows he never sold to a Mike Master. Now I know why he said this because Mike told me he bought this from Mark himself and yet to receive paper's. So I E-Mailed Mark and asked do you ship receipts with your boas and or paper's. His response was if the buyer requested it he will do it.
Now I contact Mike asking him about these Motley's and remember I'm pretty angry right now. I told him I talked to Mark and these Motleys are not what your claiming them to be Mike. Mike said they are don't worry about it he seen the parent's on site. So I decided to contact Lynn Robertson myself not a easy tasks. Getting this guy on the phone or to reply to a E-Mail. So finally after 30 or more attempts to contact him he finally calls me back. I asked him right off the back how do you know Mike Master's his reply was from a trade we did. I said ok what type of boas did you trade him. He replied a few motley's I asked him what type of motley's are they? He said well what ones did you get I told him the ones with a stripe tail. He said right away oh that was a motley het anery x dh sunglow! I said wait DH Sunglow my paper's say Sunglow het anery. He said no they were motley het anery x dh sunglow. I was so upset I said then why did you type these paper's out saying it was a motley het anery x sunglow. This is were I knew something was up he replied I didn't create any paper's with them. I said wait you did not create any genectic forms for these motley's? He replied no never did.
So Mike wanted me to send him 8 boa's! The Ghost 66% het albino, Ghost male , Anery het albino (sold to me as a female but was a male) female jungleglow , 2 hypo het albino's (poss supers) keep in mind he already had my two salmons early 2010 female valued at 850.00 shipped , male 750.00 shipped is what I paid for them both. Now I get too keep 2 motleys that were not worth much because I didn't even know the genetics of these boas. Also the coral albino valued at 325.00 he said he paid Mark at boa master 500.00. So yes I kept my jungleglow, two hypo het albino's. I sent him back the female 66% het albino female , plain male ghost, and anery male.
When Mike was confronted on the Motleys he created this Post about me. Because he knew the truth was about be reviled. I know this I never took from anyone on here, I have shipped first in this deal. I got stuck with Motleys that were not what they claimed to be I wasn't giving the choice because paper's were forged. Lynn Robertson said himself he didn't create no paper's on them. Mike admitted he made these paper's up he should of let me make the decision if I wanted to still go with the trade. He should of told me that he created these paper's why didn't he? I think because he didn't want me to dig deeper to find the truth. You guys can judge me however you want. I know I have done business with many people and have never had this problem. What really puts the icing on the cake is he gave me a good trader rating. But as soon as I found out that these paper's were forged we all ended up here and he posted the thread on me. I can only move on from this and learn from my mistakes. I'm sorry Richard with allreptiles if I caused any hard feelings the things I have said in the past were said out of anger. I'm also sorry to the mods for using the S**T in my previous post that you gave me a warning on.
Highest Regards
David Zackary
Dave,you lied to me all along telling me you were from Texas,then i find out your from Mi!
I'm not dealing with people that tell me they are from one area and your shipping from another!I dont know who you really are and i dont care what dealings your having with Mike.
Whats going on with you and Mike is on you 2,i have nothing to do with this and you shouldn't have anything bad to say about me.I did nothing wrong to anyone!!I never traded or bought from Mike,i only know him from on here!
Hard feelings.lol
If your from Mi,why do you still have a Dallas Tx address posted? Where are you from?
Your shipping labels are from Mi and your Fauna address is from Dallas Tx. I still dont know where your from!Not that it really matters but i hate being lied to like you did to me.
You can email me at my home email if you want to explain why you did all this to me when i did nothing wrong to you or anyone on here but that h h moore.
Rich Peterson
I'm not dealing with people that tell me they are from one area and your shipping from another!I dont know who you really are and i dont care what dealings your having with Mike.
Whats going on with you and Mike is on you 2,i have nothing to do with this and you shouldn't have anything bad to say about me.I did nothing wrong to anyone!!I never traded or bought from Mike,i only know him from on here!
Hard feelings.lol
If your from Mi,why do you still have a Dallas Tx address posted? Where are you from?
Your shipping labels are from Mi and your Fauna address is from Dallas Tx. I still dont know where your from!Not that it really matters but i hate being lied to like you did to me.
You can email me at my home email if you want to explain why you did all this to me when i did nothing wrong to you or anyone on here but that h h moore.
Rich Peterson
jadonh
New member
Like he said, Rich he had no problems with you and still doesn't.
It seems the whole problem with this issue is a few things.
1) No proof, everyone has stated he said, she said, but minus the receipt there is no proof, nothing! No emails, texts, nothing.
2) NO ONE IS READING ALL OF THE POST. They are really only reading what has to do with them, and thats it. What I mean by this, is they are scanning the messages and when they see their name they reply.
I have nothing to do with this deal, nothing to do with any of these people, I don't even keep boas, none, only giant snakes, but I still like to read the drama. I believe all of you should read the whole BOI and then reply back as well as show your proof. Otherwise drop it and move on. In my opinion you are all lying one way or another. NO PROOF = LIER
It seems the whole problem with this issue is a few things.
1) No proof, everyone has stated he said, she said, but minus the receipt there is no proof, nothing! No emails, texts, nothing.
2) NO ONE IS READING ALL OF THE POST. They are really only reading what has to do with them, and thats it. What I mean by this, is they are scanning the messages and when they see their name they reply.
I have nothing to do with this deal, nothing to do with any of these people, I don't even keep boas, none, only giant snakes, but I still like to read the drama. I believe all of you should read the whole BOI and then reply back as well as show your proof. Otherwise drop it and move on. In my opinion you are all lying one way or another. NO PROOF = LIER
I'm going to reserve my final opinion for when I see the proof before I say anyone has definitely been scammed....
Yes, there does seem to be a conflict in the information being provided. I did a check of the IP addresses used by "texasrattleandboas" and here's what the information shows:
- Registration IP Address
- 66.87.2.117 AMHERST, OHIO
- Post IP Addresses
- 184.216.108.199 Detroit, MI
- 66.87.11.170 HARTFORD CITY, INDIANA
- Matches with -> nickmaitland96
- 66.87.2.252 AMHERST, OHIO
- 66.87.7.21 MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA
- 66.87.7.77 MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA
- 97.84.215.16 Saginaw, MI 48604
Doesn't seem to be much doubt now about his location, seeing as how this new Good Guy thread confirms a customer picking up Boa's in Michigan.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275090
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275090
OK,i have the proof in emails sent from"DAVID" that he admits he doesnt live in TX.
unfortunately its full of swear words and i dont know how to fix.
I would like to send these emails to a mod if i can without being kicked off for all the swear words.
PLEAS ADVISE!
unfortunately its full of swear words and i dont know how to fix.
I would like to send these emails to a mod if i can without being kicked off for all the swear words.
PLEAS ADVISE!
From: David Zackary ([email protected])
Sent: Fri 9/02/11 12:12 PM
To: 1 2 ([email protected])
The reason my f****** name is listed as Texas is because it was my
father's acct I had people who knew my dad hit me up and didn't
realize he had passed on. No I didn't threaten you once till this
morning you have been making all the threats Rich so as a human my
reaction is to protect myself and family. I sure anyone would do such
thing unless they are a f****** coward. I have no relations to this
Chris mother****** I don't know him and don't care to f****** know the
guy from what you have said. You want a copy of my f****** Birth
certificate and driver's licence Rich? I can tell you this I didn't
rip off that f****** prick Mike I sent him 2 boas in the trade they
are worth over 2 grand also I shipped first Rich. I took a gamble and
I got f****** f***** over by the **** sucker. I have been nothing but
honest with you except the were I live part as soon as you said you
wont deal with anyone from the area I already listed I didn't know how
to tell you. I do apologize for that I should of came out and said it
in the beginning but I f***** up. Now all I can do is move on I have
enough to deal with my mom just passed and I got 4 federal charges to
look at because I fucking shipped without the labels and whatnot. I
only came at you about the threats when you threaten me. I can tell
you this Rich I don't bother no one or steal from anyone I mean come
on I was going to ship first. Also Mikes punk a** wrote that email he
sent it too me I mean come on it's right in front of you Rich it's
from him to me. I can't sign into his account and send you a email
from him goddamn. Also for talking like this Chris guy is pretty
funny. I think your being paranoid because I never delt with Chris or
ever delt with you till a couple months ago. I have no way to prove
to you i'm a good guy I know my friends and family know i'm a good
guy. Also I fronted Mike about this jungle he said was produced by Boa
master well I talked to Boa master he said it wasn't one of his all
his animals come with paper work. He said he's been dealing with boas
for 20 + years and sent me baby boas and didn't know how to sex them
bull shit he knew they were not f****** females he knew it. So all
together I sent him 2 hypo Jungle PC/Aby cherry salmon's het albino
possible super my goal was to produce the first aby sunglow but
http://basicallyboas.com/ beat me too it this aby sunglow is being
sold for over 4000.00 for the sunglow scroll down the page and see
her. This line is better thent he rosewells Rich. Look I'm sorry I
fucking lied I'm sorry I said some BS i'm man enough to admit I did
lie about my current living place. But my name is David Zackary I'm
originally from Dallas Texas I moved her about 6 yrs ago for a job
with 3M that is merged with General Motors in Detroit. The only way I
can prove i'm a good guy man is send you the animals we agreed on. if
you don't want them that's fine we both are not out of nothing. Also
as for Mike he can go f****** f*** his self man he ripped me off and
he knows it even with the coral jungle he said he was bonafide jungle
the pictures didn't show how the jungle markings are visual only in
person you can see them. Bull Fucking shit I fell for it he even now
says you knew it was a low expression bullshit I would of never traded
my1 female boa for a low expression jungle when she is as pure as they
get. Also for a f****** anery het albino and a ghost that is only 66%
het snow he f****** lied man he said it was 100% het snow. I sent them
back to him the pair of ghost and the anery het albino you f******
right i'm keeping the mots and jungle he has my two high end f******
boas I'm stuck with these and noone even wants them. So fuck him I
would never refer my worst f****** enemy to him. I even saved you from
the f****** p**** I should of took my own advice he's a slick talker
and a smooth scammer. I don't know any other way to prove myself to
you and I really don't give a f*** what Mike thinks he even tried to
say my DH wasn't even a hypo bullshit they are all hypos any DH
sunglow is a hypo. The true name for a DH sunglow is a Hypo Het albino
and man he wanted them so bad he even tried to say she wasn't a
possible super I know my fucking snakes he tried to think i didn't
know what i was talking about and could pull a fast one on me but he
did he f***** left over.Think of it like this why did he send them if
these mots are worth 1000's he knows they aint worth shit just like
the jungle he claims is jungle this thing is a coral albino is all.
his tail is so washed out it's unreal. if I was ripping people off
Rich why did I send him back the 3 snakes after I had them all I could
of said f*** you Mike but I sent them back I didn't keep them or steal
them I mean come on Rich.
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:11 AM, 1 2 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I dont care anymore about who says what,who knows whos lying.
> Both of you can fight among yourselves! I want nothing to do with either.
> Taking 2 weeks to trade is nothing.Window shopping,so f****** what!! I have
> what i said i do and will always stay straight and not lie.Its obvious 1 of
> you 2 are lying and being honest it has nothing to do with me man.
> Grow the f*** up Dave or chris.I dont care who you are.
> as far as driving from tx because i called you a liar and piece of shit just
> to try and kick my *** is nonsense and if you want to take the drive,bring a
> bag with you that you want to rest in.If you show up here to start any
> trouble,we all hunt,i have dogs that will fuck someone up and i am not a
> p**** and will handle any intruder! this is just what chris said too!
> If you can ever prove to me you are a "good guy" i will eat my words is all
> i can say.
> To me and mike,you look bad man. Why are you listed as a tx guy but send
> packages from SAGINAW Mi??
> I have not threatened you,just informed you people will not take kindly for
> being ripped off,like me.Knowbody is messing with your family,if you have
> 1.I would not ever do that myself.I would never show up to a guys house to
> do anything violent when they have family.I'm not even violent unless
> provoked,so if you need to come here,do so! From Mi its about 15 hrs and 3-4
> days from Tx.
> Where do you live,huh??
> this is my last email to you dude,you need to get with mike and do whatever
> you 2 need too.I'm done with all this crap.
> Stop emailing me if your a real man.We are not going to straighten any of
> this out.
> DO WHAT YOU FEEL IS RIGHT FOR YOU MAN<BUT SHOWING UP HERE WILL BE A MISTAKE
> I BELIEVE>AND FOR NOTHING BUT NAME CALLING<YOUR THIS CHRIS GUY TO ME!!!
> SHIT LOOKS BAD FOR YOU>WHAT WAS YOUR KINGSNAKE ACCOUNT BEFORE AND YOU FAUNA
> ACCOUNT THAT GOT APRIL TO KICK YOU OFF! OH<I ALREADY KNOW
> MOVE ON MAN
> ________________________________
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 07:32:27 -0700
> Subject: RE: boas
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
> Number 1 I never email you about some f****** trade for a lipstick line. I
> emailed you about a ad you placed. I was trying to help you. Now let's get
> something straight here I'm from f****** Texas Dallas. As for a theif mother
> f***** you got the wrong guy I ain't never stole from anyone. I got f*****
> by Mike I'm not going to sit back and cry about it! It is what it is. My
> package was left at fed ex and i had to get it and use f****** id. my name
> is David Zackary when i wrote you that you had wrote a email saying you
> won't deal with.anyone from the saginaw area Or Ohio or Colorado Oh well no
> big deal. So you sit here and say i stole mother f***** I ain't never stole
> from anyone I was going to ship first to you so how would i ripped you off.
> As for Mikes ass I did the same thing shipped first. I ain't going sit back
> and take any threats if you want to do this man to man and f*** the po po
> let's dance mother fucker. I've dance with mother f****** 5 times bigger
> then me. I'm a marine and don't back down from S*** I don't need noone on my
> mother f****** side all I need is me and who ever is in my way. You want to
> threaten my life you better know who your dealing with. I could care less
> who you think i am mother f***** as for forgetful I hit you on fauna about a
> boa you posted the genectics wrong. Then you approched me with my f******
> snakes get the S*** right. All i have did was help you with knowlege of the
> snakes. Saved your ass with mike should of let you do the trade as Mike said
> you strung him on for weeks your a window shopper as they say. I could give
> a f*** what anyone thinks. I know I got my animals and I've always shipped
> first and never stole from anyone. From fauna everyone had a funny story
> about you but my dumb *** backed you up. Now as for two miles were this guy
> live I don't give a fuck if he lived 5 mins away it ain't me. Well I ain't
> going to sit here and write this bull**** i got better things to do like
> work. But you remember you piece of S*** you asked me about my snakes mother
> f***** all i did was correct a ad you posted. Then you wanted to get one of
> my snakes i even have the emails on fauna all i did was correct your fuck up
> on fauna. I never once said to you hey I got lipsticks I know you love em.
> Get f****** real Rich you asked about my lipstick line jerk***. Again watch
> your threats because I don't take that S*** lightly when it deals with my
> family. I'll drive to you if you like cause noone going to fuck with my
> girls or wife ill take a f****** life for the safty of my family. I'm a
> family man and a honest man I never f***** you outta no snakes or even
> remotly delt with you. It's funny how you say I'm ripping people off when I
> ship first in most deals.
> On Sep 2, 2011 9:01 AM, "1 2" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Your a liar man.I dont know who you are,but your not from Tx as you have
>> been telling me!You send packages from Saginaw Mi and only 2 miles from
>> Chris! You emailed me from the start about trading for a lipstick line which
>> you knew i was into!Come on man,be a man and not a boy.I dont care who the
>> f*** you are anymore.I dont deal with thieves man and i'm not getting
>> involved with you!!you said you had s*** to tell me before that might ruin
>> our friendship,i now know what it was,you were going to tell me you were
>> from MI.Thats why you said i should trust you,you were going to say i'm not
>> him.or something along those lines.Thats why you have not sent snakes to
>> me,YOUR NOT IN TEXAS A******! and i would have noticed that right away. i
>> can care less about mike either,he does retail and i do wholesale. so your
>> not going to be able to convince me he's talking s***.i dont care if he is
>> any more.
Sent: Fri 9/02/11 12:12 PM
To: 1 2 ([email protected])
The reason my f****** name is listed as Texas is because it was my
father's acct I had people who knew my dad hit me up and didn't
realize he had passed on. No I didn't threaten you once till this
morning you have been making all the threats Rich so as a human my
reaction is to protect myself and family. I sure anyone would do such
thing unless they are a f****** coward. I have no relations to this
Chris mother****** I don't know him and don't care to f****** know the
guy from what you have said. You want a copy of my f****** Birth
certificate and driver's licence Rich? I can tell you this I didn't
rip off that f****** prick Mike I sent him 2 boas in the trade they
are worth over 2 grand also I shipped first Rich. I took a gamble and
I got f****** f***** over by the **** sucker. I have been nothing but
honest with you except the were I live part as soon as you said you
wont deal with anyone from the area I already listed I didn't know how
to tell you. I do apologize for that I should of came out and said it
in the beginning but I f***** up. Now all I can do is move on I have
enough to deal with my mom just passed and I got 4 federal charges to
look at because I fucking shipped without the labels and whatnot. I
only came at you about the threats when you threaten me. I can tell
you this Rich I don't bother no one or steal from anyone I mean come
on I was going to ship first. Also Mikes punk a** wrote that email he
sent it too me I mean come on it's right in front of you Rich it's
from him to me. I can't sign into his account and send you a email
from him goddamn. Also for talking like this Chris guy is pretty
funny. I think your being paranoid because I never delt with Chris or
ever delt with you till a couple months ago. I have no way to prove
to you i'm a good guy I know my friends and family know i'm a good
guy. Also I fronted Mike about this jungle he said was produced by Boa
master well I talked to Boa master he said it wasn't one of his all
his animals come with paper work. He said he's been dealing with boas
for 20 + years and sent me baby boas and didn't know how to sex them
bull shit he knew they were not f****** females he knew it. So all
together I sent him 2 hypo Jungle PC/Aby cherry salmon's het albino
possible super my goal was to produce the first aby sunglow but
http://basicallyboas.com/ beat me too it this aby sunglow is being
sold for over 4000.00 for the sunglow scroll down the page and see
her. This line is better thent he rosewells Rich. Look I'm sorry I
fucking lied I'm sorry I said some BS i'm man enough to admit I did
lie about my current living place. But my name is David Zackary I'm
originally from Dallas Texas I moved her about 6 yrs ago for a job
with 3M that is merged with General Motors in Detroit. The only way I
can prove i'm a good guy man is send you the animals we agreed on. if
you don't want them that's fine we both are not out of nothing. Also
as for Mike he can go f****** f*** his self man he ripped me off and
he knows it even with the coral jungle he said he was bonafide jungle
the pictures didn't show how the jungle markings are visual only in
person you can see them. Bull Fucking shit I fell for it he even now
says you knew it was a low expression bullshit I would of never traded
my1 female boa for a low expression jungle when she is as pure as they
get. Also for a f****** anery het albino and a ghost that is only 66%
het snow he f****** lied man he said it was 100% het snow. I sent them
back to him the pair of ghost and the anery het albino you f******
right i'm keeping the mots and jungle he has my two high end f******
boas I'm stuck with these and noone even wants them. So fuck him I
would never refer my worst f****** enemy to him. I even saved you from
the f****** p**** I should of took my own advice he's a slick talker
and a smooth scammer. I don't know any other way to prove myself to
you and I really don't give a f*** what Mike thinks he even tried to
say my DH wasn't even a hypo bullshit they are all hypos any DH
sunglow is a hypo. The true name for a DH sunglow is a Hypo Het albino
and man he wanted them so bad he even tried to say she wasn't a
possible super I know my fucking snakes he tried to think i didn't
know what i was talking about and could pull a fast one on me but he
did he f***** left over.Think of it like this why did he send them if
these mots are worth 1000's he knows they aint worth shit just like
the jungle he claims is jungle this thing is a coral albino is all.
his tail is so washed out it's unreal. if I was ripping people off
Rich why did I send him back the 3 snakes after I had them all I could
of said f*** you Mike but I sent them back I didn't keep them or steal
them I mean come on Rich.
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:11 AM, 1 2 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I dont care anymore about who says what,who knows whos lying.
> Both of you can fight among yourselves! I want nothing to do with either.
> Taking 2 weeks to trade is nothing.Window shopping,so f****** what!! I have
> what i said i do and will always stay straight and not lie.Its obvious 1 of
> you 2 are lying and being honest it has nothing to do with me man.
> Grow the f*** up Dave or chris.I dont care who you are.
> as far as driving from tx because i called you a liar and piece of shit just
> to try and kick my *** is nonsense and if you want to take the drive,bring a
> bag with you that you want to rest in.If you show up here to start any
> trouble,we all hunt,i have dogs that will fuck someone up and i am not a
> p**** and will handle any intruder! this is just what chris said too!
> If you can ever prove to me you are a "good guy" i will eat my words is all
> i can say.
> To me and mike,you look bad man. Why are you listed as a tx guy but send
> packages from SAGINAW Mi??
> I have not threatened you,just informed you people will not take kindly for
> being ripped off,like me.Knowbody is messing with your family,if you have
> 1.I would not ever do that myself.I would never show up to a guys house to
> do anything violent when they have family.I'm not even violent unless
> provoked,so if you need to come here,do so! From Mi its about 15 hrs and 3-4
> days from Tx.
> Where do you live,huh??
> this is my last email to you dude,you need to get with mike and do whatever
> you 2 need too.I'm done with all this crap.
> Stop emailing me if your a real man.We are not going to straighten any of
> this out.
> DO WHAT YOU FEEL IS RIGHT FOR YOU MAN<BUT SHOWING UP HERE WILL BE A MISTAKE
> I BELIEVE>AND FOR NOTHING BUT NAME CALLING<YOUR THIS CHRIS GUY TO ME!!!
> SHIT LOOKS BAD FOR YOU>WHAT WAS YOUR KINGSNAKE ACCOUNT BEFORE AND YOU FAUNA
> ACCOUNT THAT GOT APRIL TO KICK YOU OFF! OH<I ALREADY KNOW
> MOVE ON MAN
> ________________________________
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 07:32:27 -0700
> Subject: RE: boas
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
> Number 1 I never email you about some f****** trade for a lipstick line. I
> emailed you about a ad you placed. I was trying to help you. Now let's get
> something straight here I'm from f****** Texas Dallas. As for a theif mother
> f***** you got the wrong guy I ain't never stole from anyone. I got f*****
> by Mike I'm not going to sit back and cry about it! It is what it is. My
> package was left at fed ex and i had to get it and use f****** id. my name
> is David Zackary when i wrote you that you had wrote a email saying you
> won't deal with.anyone from the saginaw area Or Ohio or Colorado Oh well no
> big deal. So you sit here and say i stole mother f***** I ain't never stole
> from anyone I was going to ship first to you so how would i ripped you off.
> As for Mikes ass I did the same thing shipped first. I ain't going sit back
> and take any threats if you want to do this man to man and f*** the po po
> let's dance mother fucker. I've dance with mother f****** 5 times bigger
> then me. I'm a marine and don't back down from S*** I don't need noone on my
> mother f****** side all I need is me and who ever is in my way. You want to
> threaten my life you better know who your dealing with. I could care less
> who you think i am mother f***** as for forgetful I hit you on fauna about a
> boa you posted the genectics wrong. Then you approched me with my f******
> snakes get the S*** right. All i have did was help you with knowlege of the
> snakes. Saved your ass with mike should of let you do the trade as Mike said
> you strung him on for weeks your a window shopper as they say. I could give
> a f*** what anyone thinks. I know I got my animals and I've always shipped
> first and never stole from anyone. From fauna everyone had a funny story
> about you but my dumb *** backed you up. Now as for two miles were this guy
> live I don't give a fuck if he lived 5 mins away it ain't me. Well I ain't
> going to sit here and write this bull**** i got better things to do like
> work. But you remember you piece of S*** you asked me about my snakes mother
> f***** all i did was correct a ad you posted. Then you wanted to get one of
> my snakes i even have the emails on fauna all i did was correct your fuck up
> on fauna. I never once said to you hey I got lipsticks I know you love em.
> Get f****** real Rich you asked about my lipstick line jerk***. Again watch
> your threats because I don't take that S*** lightly when it deals with my
> family. I'll drive to you if you like cause noone going to fuck with my
> girls or wife ill take a f****** life for the safty of my family. I'm a
> family man and a honest man I never f***** you outta no snakes or even
> remotly delt with you. It's funny how you say I'm ripping people off when I
> ship first in most deals.
> On Sep 2, 2011 9:01 AM, "1 2" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Your a liar man.I dont know who you are,but your not from Tx as you have
>> been telling me!You send packages from Saginaw Mi and only 2 miles from
>> Chris! You emailed me from the start about trading for a lipstick line which
>> you knew i was into!Come on man,be a man and not a boy.I dont care who the
>> f*** you are anymore.I dont deal with thieves man and i'm not getting
>> involved with you!!you said you had s*** to tell me before that might ruin
>> our friendship,i now know what it was,you were going to tell me you were
>> from MI.Thats why you said i should trust you,you were going to say i'm not
>> him.or something along those lines.Thats why you have not sent snakes to
>> me,YOUR NOT IN TEXAS A******! and i would have noticed that right away. i
>> can care less about mike either,he does retail and i do wholesale. so your
>> not going to be able to convince me he's talking s***.i dont care if he is
>> any more.
The only words removed were swear words. This guy IMO is the CHRIS TAYLOR on here that ripped me off for a very pretty sunglow for his caner daughter and ripped off MCFLY for the 5-6 lipsticks.Funny how they live about 1 mile from each other!
This should be enough to show this guy has been being dishonest with his address.Nothing to do with the Mike and Dave thing.
This should be enough to show this guy has been being dishonest with his address.Nothing to do with the Mike and Dave thing.
Wow, what psychotic e-mails!
Don't think I've ever seen quite so much cursing in e-mails before. Maybe I'm wrong, but WOW!
Don't think I've ever seen quite so much cursing in e-mails before. Maybe I'm wrong, but WOW!
boasandballs
New member
I was told by him
:From: David Zackary <[email protected]> (Add as Preferred Sender)
Date: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 8:47 pm
To: [email protected]
Ok will you hold him till tomorrow around noon my buddy owns a petstore I have my business at home will that work also ill send as gift so you don't get charge ok. Will my business at home work? My business is Mikes Medical supply let me know please. Thanks so much
From: David Zackary <[email protected]> (Add as Preferred Sender)
Date: Tue, Aug 02, 2011 10:13 pm
To: [email protected]
5899 Weiss st apt g5 saginaw Michigan 48603
On Aug 2, 2011 11:18 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
oh that is ok. What is the address to ship to?
Lynn Kubic
Boas and Balls
www.boasandballs.com
Paypal came from:
This is the note on the paypal he sent with the $60 for the snake.
Hi this is for the Male Id# 11-BCI-196 Born 5-30-11 Prey: hopper mice Length: 18"-24" Also I will post the shipping by Weds or Friday ok thanks for allowing me to come up with the shipping ! I own my own business Mikes Medical Supply it's a online business ran at home all supply come to me.
paypal was from:
Karie Erskine
3527 christy way s
Saginaw, MI 48603
mmm, David told me his daughter had cancer
From: David Zackary <[email protected]> (Add as Preferred Sender)
Date: Mon, Aug 01, 2011 9:05 am
To: [email protected]
I sent payment ok for the snake will you guys put sold on him so noone else can get him plus my daughter is so excited she has been battling Cancer for 5 yrs and this is the first time she is in remission so she's really excited to get this snake. Thanks for allowing me to get you the shipping by Friday ok. Do you guys sell cages ? I leave for Iraq in about 4 months it will be my 4th tour so this trip should only be around 9 months thank god. lol anyways if you do sell cages can you give us a price list ? We only have 1 baby right now and this will be our second baby thanks guys so much
Yes I would agree, a lot of the e-mails he sent me were similar. David that is.
Aside from the obvious being that this whole situation is one giant cluster
without hardcore evidence as of yet ...This e-mail just has me arching a brow.
One of key indicators of a scammer or of someone intending on pulling the wool over your eyes, for whatever reason, is the insertion of irrelevant information that is meant to hit you in the face. He wants to put a down payment on a snake plus his daughter has cancer and is really excited about it because she is in remission for the first time in five years. How any of that links together is beyond me.
He wants to know if you sell cages, he is going to Iraq for the fourth time so its only going to be for nine months, so if you sell cages I will want to buy some. Again ... irrelevant information poorly linked and inserted into a thought process.
And yes, they do seem similar to Chris Taylor. What has me really scratching my head though is the IP address that matches Nick.
hhmoore
tired & cranky shadow
The IP that matches Nick's is on pools.spcsdns.net - Sprint Mobile. That it is popping up as a match this long after Nick's activity is probably just the result of recycling numbers.