• Posted 12/19/2024.
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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
  • Responding to email notices you receive.
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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

Bad Guy Garret Smith ( Scammer )

Frogman11 said:
Why would I say come pick them up when they were sold? everyone hates me? :(
:rofl::rofl::rofl: Ive done nothing respectable? You know nothing about me. You are butt hurt about not getting these animals.. boo whooo. Get over it and grow up.
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Hahaha, man you're a clown.

No, I'm not butt hurt....not even in the slightest. You can keep at that though, maybe you'll eventually wear me down :)

After my first inquiry you replied that you had 4 pairs, that was it. Then you replied that you had other's interested, that was it. It wasn't until me pushing you for pictures and telling you that I would not be shipping them that you said "As I already said, I have other's interested...".

You never said "The pairs are sold"...which is what a normal person would do. I kept at you because I wanted to see what you would say or do. I have known about these threads on the BOI for some time and have even posted on this thread well before my emails with you recently.

.....Your communication skills are on par with a 6th grader's.....
 
dieselfan said:
So someone who is a convicted smuggler,scammer, thief,liar,and a fraud should be allowed to post classified ad's here on this website with impunity? Given Garretts trolling/bullying,lieing stealing, one would think members here should speak out against him, I would think its any honest person's duty to whack him with negative karma given the chance. Give me an infraction(s) if necessary,however I think most people would agree with the negative attention Garrett has has generated.
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Good thing your standard is not the sole determinant of what defines an "honest" person or an honest person's duty. Your call to arms is unwelcome. April covered matters very well.

dieselfan said:
Summed up... The words of a victim who came forward to close friends who are big names in the industry after she got scammed by Garrett..Sat by as countless others got scammed and did/said nothing. Whinned and complained behind the scenes for almost a year and then finally got what she was paid for. Wow, good for you Maria! What about the half dozen plus other people who gave gave Garrett money over a year ago, have been lied to, threatened and bullied into submission and have yet to receive anything? We get it... You only speak for yourself and your experience. Glad to hear things worked out for you.
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Do you have evidence of what you are saying here? Whether what you have claimed is the case here or not, it is not what she said.

snowgyre said:
Patrick, Lynn, and Chris, while I appreciate your skepticism of Garrick Smith's current business practices based upon his history, I do believe we're doing the BOI a disservice by continually discounting others who may come forward with more information.

If anyone has done business with Garrick and had a positive experience, they should also post it here. However, because of Garrick's history, I request that proof of those transactions are posted, including but not limited to receipts, correspondences, and most importantly, the necessary permits and licenses required to import/export the animals in question. If you are posting positive feedback about Garrick, please understand that Garrick's own history of personal, vindictive attacks against those who are skeptical of him selling high-profile species (especially given his prior smuggling conviction) have led some of us to be even more skeptical, even critical, of his business transactions. The first hundred or so posts within this thread is probably all you would have to read to get an accurate summary of all that has occurred... the rest is ultimately back-and-forth fluff.

Likewise, if anyone has had recent negative business transactions with Garrick, please post them here or start a new BOI thread.

Garrick, I do request that you at least give us the name of the "original importer" you are getting those dragons from.
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This is indeed correct. People should not feel like the environment is hostile to those deciding to or considering to post their experiences (be they positive or negative). Confining them to a single thread is the preference, but I understand if this thread is a bit "much" at this point with the way it has been going. That said, it is the traditional preference all the same. That posting a positive experience in this thread feels like it requires extra fortitude relative to the normal openness of an average thread is no less than a shame from my perspective.

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If an environment is created by posters such that contributions are automatically outright attacked without presentation of evidence and dissection of the merits of the (positive and/or negative) claims involved, then it is unjust due to artificially attempting to force a unilateral narrative. When a person wishes to silence a party for offering an alternative perspective because it runs counter to one's own thematic course, truth is not that person's aim. It is a dishonest desire/action by its nature.
 
Garrett, just so you can be better educated to how an honest person does business, here's a scenario for you. This is how respectable people do business. I've dealt with a lot of importers/exporters and breeders around the world. The commonality has been this same scenario, which builds respect and life long customers. Everything you're not.

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Seller: Puts ad up, no pictures. No info on animals. Just the species and price.

Buyer 1: Asks about animals and for pictures.

Seller: Sends pictures and complete info on animals for sale. Leaves nothing to the imagination. Makes sure that the buyer knows exactly what they'd be getting.

Potential buyer 1: Declines and moves on.

Seller: Keeps ad up.

Potential buyer 2: Asks about animals and for pictures...

Potential buyer 3: Asks about the animals and for pictures...

Seller: Again, Sends pictures and complete info on animals for sale. Leaves nothing to the imagination. Makes sure that the buyer knows exactly what they'd be getting. This time all he has to do is forward the emails he previously wrote to the 1st potential buyer. Easy.

Potential buyer 3 buys animals.

Seller: Ad is still up by mistake.

Potential buyer 4: Ask about the animals and for pictures...

Seller: In detail lets the potential buyer know that the animals have sold.

Potential buyer 4: Would still like to know about the animals and would love to see pictures of what they looked like.

Seller: Forwards the same email with pictures that he's already sent to the other potential buyers.
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That is the easiest way to deal with people. Just keep forwarding the same email with the same pictures to anyone who asks.

There, I just taught you something.....didn't think it was possible.
 
Frogman11 said:
Hello,

My names Garrett...Not Garrick. No biggie. And Yes you are asking politely thank you.....but as you may or may not know I don't believe in the BOI system for obviously reasons. I got into trouble importing 13 years ago and luckily got out of it and learned how to do it properly. With that said there is no way in hell would I do anything illegal. Believe me when I say....I have legal paperwork for everything that I import. All of the information about Australia importing and exporting can be easily looked up.
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Wow! So you're saying that when you were trafficking illegal animals, which details are displayed via the article posted here (post#101), you didn't know how to do it properly? That is the most hilarious, while pathetic response you've submitted yet! And ya' know what's easier than looking up that info? You posting legal documents for the animals in question here.
 
Chris Kennard said:
And ya' know what's easier than looking up that info? You posting legal documents for the animals in question here.
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A normal and honest person would just supply whatever documents were being requested in order to clear themselves that were not privet (bank details...etc). But again, that is what a normal and honest person does.....

Garrett, you may be an importer. You may even get in the animals you actually put up ads for. But you have dug yourself one big deep hole, and you've done it to yourself. I've spoken to the Australian government DIRECTLY about obtaining import permits for certain "CBB" animals from licensed breeders in AU and was told that I'd have more luck turning coal into diamonds.

You have such a terrible reputation that it's beyond me that you are still around. If I were you I'd be too embarrassed to even peek my head around a corner...
 
Frogman11 said:
Ill save you some time. I have used a total of 8 different exporters from 6 different countries. None of them have been involved in illegal activity.
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Post #101 and definitely post #819 of this thread certainly put you in bed with some seedy characters. Oskroba was the other name I was missing.
 
Chris Proctor,

Your comment now are laughable. let me teach you something.

1. When interested in something be polite when inquiring about an animal. Your trying to brag and name dropping in your first e-mail didn't impress me.

2. When someone tells you that someone else is interested. Maybe ask if the person backs out or doesn't fully commit "can I be next in line." You had 5 people politely do this exact thing.

3. When someone tells you that someone else is interested in the animals and you truly are interested, you probably shouldn't call people a dumbf*ck on your third e-mail. Or is that how a respectable person in YOUR community acts?

4. If the animals were not sold when you inquired about them. You were demanding things in your e-mails. Telling me how it was going to work. That may work at Walmart for you...but I don't put up with it. Typical I will politely say, the said animals are sold. I don't need to sell you anything.

You know nothing about me. You and your opinion don't mean squat. I only responded because your the second guy..one a year and a half ago. Patrick Sterling did the same thing. I would be embarrassed if I were you two. "I didn't get the animals so they don't exist." He never asked me for money...but he's trying to rip me off" You two are long lost butt hurt brothers.

Bottom line on Chris Proctor: This is a clear case of you missed the boat and now your kicking and screaming on the dock.:rofl: You are butt hurt beyond belief that you couldn't strong-arm me into selling you these animals. Grow up, wipe your tears off and move on.



 
Lol...I'm so butt hurt its ridiculous. Ouch!



Frogman11 said:
Chris Proctor,

Your comment now are laughable. let me teach you something.

1. When interested in something be polite when inquiring about an animal. Your trying to brag and name dropping in your first e-mail didn't impress me.

2. When someone tells you that someone else is interested. Maybe ask if the person backs out or doesn't fully commit "can I be next in line." You had 5 people politely do this exact thing.

3. When someone tells you that someone else is interested in the animals and you truly are interested, you probably shouldn't call people a dumbf*ck on your third e-mail. Or is that how a respectable person in YOUR community acts?

4. If the animals were not sold when you inquired about them. You were demanding things in your e-mails. Telling me how it was going to work. That may work at Walmart for you...but I don't put up with it. Typical I will politely say, the said animals are sold. I don't need to sell you anything.

You know nothing about me. You and your opinion don't mean squat. I only responded because your the second guy..one a year and a half ago. Patrick Sterling did the same thing. I would be embarrassed if I were you two. "I didn't get the animals so they don't exist." He never asked me for money...but he's trying to rip me off" You two are long lost butt hurt brothers.

Bottom line on Chris Proctor: This is a clear case of you missed the boat and now your kicking and screaming on the dock.:rofl: You are butt hurt beyond belief that you couldn't strong-arm me into selling you these animals. Grow up, wipe your tears off and move on.



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One of your smuggling charges...

https://www.newsreview.com/chico/tortoise-smuggling-in-chico/content?oid=613799

https://www.justice.gov/sites/defau.../LPS-190678-v1-ECS_Bulletin_2009_06_Block.PDF

On May 12, 2009, Garrett Smith was sentenced to
pay a $2,000 fine and will complete a three-year term of
probation as the result of previously pleading guilty to
conspiracy to smuggle wildlife. Smith originally was charged in a 21-count indictment with a variety of wildlife smuggling violations. According to the indictment, Smith, working with an unknown international co-conspirator known as "Turtle Man," (believed to reside in Singapore), engaged in a conspiracy to illegally smuggle wild tortoises into the United States for sale.

The overseas conspirator and others acting at his direction obtained Burmese Star Tortoises and Indian Star Tortoises in Asia and sold them to Smith via e-mail transactions. The tortoises, which were illegally imported into this country without proper documentation and with misleading labels, were then sold to distributors and customers across the United States. Approximately 30 protected Indian Star Tortoises and five protected Burmese Star Tortoises were imported illegally. Burmese Star adults can sell on the black market for up to $7,000 each, with juveniles and sub-adults selling for approximately $3,750.

This case was investigated by the United States Fish and Wildlife Service.
 
Frogman11 said:
Hello,

My names Garrett...Not Garrick. No biggie. And Yes you are asking politely thank you.....but as you may or may not know I don't believe in the BOI system for obviously reasons. I got into trouble importing 13 years ago and luckily got out of it and learned how to do it properly. With that said there is no way in hell would I do anything illegal. Believe me when I say....I have legal paperwork for everything that I import. All of the information about Australia importing and exporting can be easily looked up.
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Apologies Garrett, not sure where I got Garrick from. You made a positive claim that you are importing the dragons from the "original importer," thus you are the one who should provide the name. "Not believing in the BOI" is not a valid excuse for not providing a name. Not openly providing that information makes it seem like you 1) made the claim up to boost sales, 2) are getting the animals second-hand through another seller who made the claim but didn't provide you with the name of the "original importer," or 3) the origins of these animals are illegal in nature.

Given the nature of your prior smuggling conviction, I would think you would want to be more forthcoming and open to clear your name and reputation of previous wrong-doing. By not doing so it only convinces an already skeptical market that you learned nothing from your previous experience and are continuing shady, possibly illegal, importations of sensitive and protected wildlife species.
 
Chris Kennard said:
Yes you have, through his partner Markus, who you've exchanged quite a bit of money with. Leopards...spots...wink, wink...
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Lol, No I have not. Just because you say it....doesn't make it so. Does your tactics work on your left wing site on Facebook that you run with a child molester?
 
Frogman11 said:
Lol, No I have not. Just because you say it....doesn't make it so. Does your tactics work on your left wing site on Facebook that you run with a child molester?
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LMAO! Keep reaching! I'm so glad you posted this! It shows what a liar you are! Left wing? Anyone who views my FB page knows that I am a staunch conservative and have a page HAGR Headquarters and have no partnerships with anyone! I LOVE THIS! PLEASE SHOW EVERYONE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!! PANTS ON FIRE, YET AGAIN!
 
Left wing, lol? There are people here that can look up who I voted for. Primaries and general, voted Trump and republican across the board! Nothing to hide here. As you were saying Garrett?
 
Back on track...posts #101 and #819 are the posts that expose you for the person you are and always will be. You are the "neighborhood" that honest people avoid.
 
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