Bad Guy Garret Smith ( Scammer )

Apologies Garrett, not sure where I got Garrick from. You made a positive claim that you are importing the dragons from the "original importer," thus you are the one who should provide the name. "Not believing in the BOI" is not a valid excuse for not providing a name. Not openly providing that information makes it seem like you 1) made the claim up to boost sales, 2) are getting the animals second-hand through another seller who made the claim but didn't provide you with the name of the "original importer," or 3) the origins of these animals are illegal in nature.

Given the nature of your prior smuggling conviction, I would think you would want to be more forthcoming and open to clear your name and reputation of previous wrong-doing. By not doing so it only convinces an already skeptical market that you learned nothing from your previous experience and are continuing shady, possibly illegal, importations of sensitive and protected wildlife species.

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Lol, No I have not. Just because you say it....doesn't make it so. Does your tactics work on your left wing site on Facebook that you run with a child molester?

Hey Garrett, take a screen shot of the FB page, provide a link, whatever! Show everyone here what a liar you are!!! LMAO!
 
Apologies Garrett, not sure where I got Garrick from. You made a positive claim that you are importing the dragons from the "original importer," thus you are the one who should provide the name. "Not believing in the BOI" is not a valid excuse for not providing a name. Not openly providing that information makes it seem like you 1) made the claim up to boost sales, 2) are getting the animals second-hand through another seller who made the claim but didn't provide you with the name of the "original importer," or 3) the origins of these animals are illegal in nature.

Given the nature of your prior smuggling conviction, I would think you would want to be more forthcoming and open to clear your name and reputation of previous wrong-doing. By not doing so it only convinces an already skeptical market that you learned nothing from your previous experience and are continuing shady, possibly illegal, importations of sensitive and protected wildlife species.

I don't think saying that would boost sales....but ok. The animals all have paperwork. I imported 20, I now have only 2 males available. I am very forthcoming to friends, family and customers. Not to people that want to start a flame war on the computer.

I don't need to clear my name or reputation. I think thats what the people/regulars on the BOI don't get. I don't have reptiles in my life for a status symbols or to become popular and get a reputation with people that ill never meet/know. On the flip side I have meet some amazing people because I keep reptiles in my life. Ive never asked to be a part of anyones community or hobby. I have reptiles in my life for the past 29 years because I enjoy them.

This BOI has been up since 07-19-2015 in that time I have sold a lot of stuff. Mostly rare high end animals that don't make it up on these adds. How many people would you say since this BOI, let me know that they would like the buy something from me but they read this, and are worried/concerned or just do not want to take the risk?.....One! In a year and a half! One of the most viewed BOI on this site....One? Do you think this BOI system is affective? Or do most people see through the Kenards? This is what I said to this lady when she said "she read this BOI on me". I said that I would send her the animal with zero money down, once she received the animal if she liked it she could then pay me. She said no to that offer. I looked her up on this site and she was having a private conversation with one of her friends, guess who it was?? Lynn Peterson one of the main instigators and fabricators of all the lies. He's uses peoples names hearsay and makes his own scenarios up...like Chris Kenard. Lynn has been pretty quite since he was called out on post #1497 From one of the ladies that he was lying about and putting words in her mouth. Thats the problem with how this BOI system is ran, people can make up what ever they want, with out proof and all the regs will jump in and bully anyone that disagrees with them. Sorry Kenards....I can't be bullied.

Just an FYI
Even the OP that started this BOI will buy animals off of me.
 
LMAO! Keep reaching! I'm so glad you posted this! It shows what a liar you are! Left wing? Anyone who views my FB page knows that I am a staunch conservative and have a page HAGR Headquarters and have no partnerships with anyone! I LOVE THIS! PLEASE SHOW EVERYONE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!! PANTS ON FIRE, YET AGAIN!

Chris,
Take a break from this guy who knows nothing better than to LIE! I'm not asking you to do anything I'm not going to do myself. I don't have a doubt everyone seeing, & reading this thread, will figure out what he is, who he is, what he is capable of, and what he's already done.

Now he's saying you're teamed up with a child molester, you asked him to prove it, it's not going to happen. You & I both know it's total BS. Look at his past here in this thread, all he does when questioned about anything, is attack the person asking, with lies about their person, or totally dances around the question, or answers with a question, what proof do you have?

He thinks he's immune to proving anything, proof positive, he hasn't answered any questions pertaining to legal import documentation, who did he receive from, etc.,etc. Literally has not answered a single question.

Bottom line he's a scammer, even if he did repay everyone, If not for the BOI, I truly believe they wouldn't of received anything, PERIOD! Some are so blinded by the need or want of some species, they're willing to take that risk, and deal with him. So be it, that's their problem, NOT ours.

He brags, the original op is going to buy animals from him, in my opinion, that's when two fools met!

It just boggles the mind, the way he comes off, thinking what he posts here, makes him look good, and he continues trying to make others look bad who oppose him.
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Chris, take my lead, BE DONE with this thread! Don't let him goad you into any other back & forth BS, I'm not taking the bait any more, you shouldn't either.

EVERYONE READING THIS THREAD, I believe is well informed, there's really nothing else to be said, other than what's already been said.

I'm done with this thread, and the likes of the convicted smuggler, known scammer, liar, & con-artist, Garrett Smith.....

Can't stress it enough, AVOID Garrett Smith like the PLAGUE, he CAN'T be TRUSTED, PERIOD!

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles



 
You're right. His reputation speaks for itself. So does mine. I've never scammed anyone. Unlike Garrett, the biggest liar to ever grace this site.
 
I am on the other side of the fence with that, I think this BOI should live on forever. Keep posting, add to it. Make it a permanent thorn in the side of a convicted wildlife smuggler and dishonest person in general. Who cares if it's drama. It only affects Garrett....

Garrett, when you decide to quit doing what you're doing, I'll quit posting on this thread in order to refresh it for everyone to see.

Fauna gets A LOT of visitors everyday. You may still be able to do business, but just knowing that if anyone googles "Garrett Smith reptiles" and having Google pop up with these Fauna BOI's and your smuggling conviction as it's FIRST links is enough for me to smile at how big a thorn this actually is to you.

You can pretend that all this doesn't bother you, but it does. You can pretend that to be a stand up guy that just got a bad rap, but your record speaks volumes above your pathetic lies that you spew out on a daily basis.

You've said that I don't know you....which is true. I know "of you" by reputation alone. I have read your replies and have seen how you handle yourself to know better than to get to know you. You're just a stain, that's it.

You'll never escape your reputation either. You can lie and say it doesn't affect you, but you know it does. Nobody strives to get a reputation like your's. I have no doubt that in your mind you think you're awesome though. You think the world of yourself, right? You try hard to convince everyone you are this great person, when in reality you haven't fooled anyone, at least anyone half intelligent. I bet you've repeated all of these behaviors your whole life.

Classical sociopath, narcissistic, anti-social behavior.

I hope you stay branded for life as a convicted smuggler and dishonest business person. I hope it follows you for as long as you stay connected to the reptile world.
 
Nathan,

You can go to https://trade.cites.org/en/cites_trade/ and see what has been imported exported from all countries.

The trade database only covers those taxa that have been listed by CITES. Pogona barbata isn't listed so this is a red herring and provides no proof of legal export from Australia or even Europe.

some comments

Ed
 
The trade database only covers those taxa that have been listed by CITES. Pogona barbata isn't listed so this is a red herring and provides no proof of legal export from Australia or even Europe.

some comments

Ed

Can't the same be said for Pogona Vitticeps?
 
I am on the other side of the fence with that, I think this BOI should live on forever. Keep posting, add to it. Make it a permanent thorn in the side of a convicted wildlife smuggler and dishonest person in general. Who cares if it's drama. It only affects Garrett....

Garrett, when you decide to quit doing what you're doing, I'll quit posting on this thread in order to refresh it for everyone to see.

Fauna gets A LOT of visitors everyday. You may still be able to do business, but just knowing that if anyone googles "Garrett Smith reptiles" and having Google pop up with these Fauna BOI's and your smuggling conviction as it's FIRST links is enough for me to smile at how big a thorn this actually is to you.

You can pretend that all this doesn't bother you, but it does. You can pretend that to be a stand up guy that just got a bad rap, but your record speaks volumes above your pathetic lies that you spew out on a daily basis.

You've said that I don't know you....which is true. I know "of you" by reputation alone. I have read your replies and have seen how you handle yourself to know better than to get to know you. You're just a stain, that's it.

You'll never escape your reputation either. You can lie and say it doesn't affect you, but you know it does. Nobody strives to get a reputation like your's. I have no doubt that in your mind you think you're awesome though. You think the world of yourself, right? You try hard to convince everyone you are this great person, when in reality you haven't fooled anyone, at least anyone half intelligent. I bet you've repeated all of these behaviors your whole life.

Classical sociopath, narcissistic, anti-social behavior.

I hope you stay branded for life as a convicted smuggler and dishonest business person. I hope it follows you for as long as you stay connected to the reptile world.

I so appreciate your tenacity here and couldn't agree more. I also don't want to see you get penalized. Read the rules here about bumping threads. If you do so without the right reason, you can incur infraction points.
 
And trust me, he's not worth it. No one can possibly damage his reputation more than he has himself.
 
Since it seems to be a topic currently,

I would be very curious if someone, anyone, can provide me with a telephone/webpage/email message that states exports of an Australian reptile from Australia to either Europe or the US is legal
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The last person that I had tell me exports were legal, but difficult, was Mike(Michael) Plank with Big Game Reptiles. Anyone that doesn't know the name can Google it and see why I am so curious.

Naturally, zoological import/export isn't being discussed in this request.

Nathan,

You can go to https://trade.cites.org/en/cites_trade/ and see what has been imported exported from all countries.


Nathan,

Here is what the senior permit officer for trade regulation has to say about "exporting" animals legally from Australia. Don't listen to Garrett, he doesn't know what he's talking about. You can contact the person who emailed me below directly as well for more info.

"Dear Mr Proctor,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding the export to the USA from Australia.
The export of live native animals is very strictly regulated. Live Australian native mammals, reptiles, birds and amphibians may not be exported for commercial uses under any circumstances.

You may be allowed to export live native animals for non–commercial purposes such as research, education, exhibition, travelling exhibition or conservation breeding programs or for particular household pets. Under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999 (the EPBC Act) there is a list of specimens which are suitable for export as pets, provided certain criteria have been met. Currently this list is restricted to only 6 species of birds. Any native species not on this list may not be exported.

To see the full list please go to our website at - http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/wildlife-trade/live/household-pets.

I hope this information is of assistance. If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards, Kath

Kath Hansen│Senior Permits Officer │Wildlife Trade Regulation Section
CITES Management Authority of Australia │Department of the Environment and Energy ( 02 6274 1900 (option '3') * [email protected]
GPO Box 787, CANBERRA, ACT 2601
 
He is a big time scammer and crook..

Don't deal with this smuggler, he will be nice to you and when he has your cash he is gone..
Still owes me over $1500.00 USD and he also owes a lot of money to oversea customers...

God will teach him a lesson sooner or later...
What goes around comes around...

Stay away from him and anyone helping move reptiles..

Stay away, if you do get anything pray it wont die on you..
He doesn't know how to take care of animals once he has them.. Stay away please, just looking out for good people..
Garrett Smith gives this hobby a bad name and a bad tast..

Hope they catch him and give him jail time for a long time..
 
He is a big time scammer and crook..

Don't deal with this smuggler, he will be nice to you and when he has your cash he is gone..
Still owes me over $1500.00 USD and he also owes a lot of money to oversea customers...

God will teach him a lesson sooner or later...
What goes around comes around...

Stay away from him and anyone helping move reptiles..

Stay away, if you do get anything pray it wont die on you..
He doesn't know how to take care of animals once he has them.. Stay away please, just looking out for good people..
Garrett Smith gives this hobby a bad name and a bad tast..

Hope they catch him and give him jail time for a long time..

Thanks for sharing this. I truly hope your health issues are on the upswing or at least under control.
 
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