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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

you guys.....

I get those spots when I've been out in the sun too long. :D
 
One thing that really got me was the paradox normal. What the hell is the parody there? I cant even think of something sarcastic to say about that.
 
I'm assuming this is referance to me, just to clarify I in no way called it a paradox, simply stated that there are 5 spots that don't belong with the rest of the pattern. Having paradox spots and having enough pattern variation to be called a paradox snake are two completely differant things.
 
I'm not sure who this was aimed at but I've seen my share of "paradox" where people are using it as a sells tactic when its NOTHING to get excited about. It won't pass on to future offsprings, it won't do anything at all for the buyer! Don't get me wrong yes I've seen some pretty cool paradox's but that doesn't mean every time one comes out with a spot in an odd spot we hike up the price and pull the paradox flag! And there's no such thing as paradox spots. paradox is when the base morph shows through from a normal pattern such as an albino with patches of normal ball python or an ivory with patches of yellowbelly. Theres no such thing as paradox spots because they don't belong with the rest of the pattern.
 
So if "paradox" has just started being abused, one is left to imagine the pain "dinker" has been put through...:rofl:
 
rcpreis3 said:
One thing that really got me was the paradox normal. What the hell is the parody there? I cant even think of something sarcastic to say about that.
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MrBig said:
So once they were out, its obvious no double sire but do have some awesome little ones. The one normal has 5 paradox spots, you can see one in the photo, they are little white circles with black dots in various places. Enjoy, I know I did.
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Yes that is what I referenced. While u didn't call it a paradox normal, did use the term "paradox" to describe it. Thus my original post of the abuse of the term paradox. I just dont see how a normal can have a "paradox" to it. A paradox is a morph that has a section of pattern that doesnt represent the morph that has been passed on to it. Even if only one part of the snake represents the the morph, its still the morph, and just an extreme paradox.

Now in honesty you seem like a victim of the misuse originally. Where as u heard it used so much recently that the first thing u thought of when u saw he/she was "paradox." (IMHO)

Believe me I think he/she is gorgeous, and again IHMO, has intense, nice blushing which creates those high white spots. I meant no offense to your animal, u just happened to spark my "need" to post the way I felt the term were being misused. Too make it fair I could reference every post where I thought paradox was misused, that u way u didnt feel u were singled out. And please understand, Im not looking to have some hard feeling towards no one, just have a cracking point and then I gotta say something. :yesnod:

Happy herping!:)
 
RobNJ said:
So if "paradox" has just started being abused, one is left to imagine the pain "dinker" has been put through...:rofl:
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Whips and chains. :rofl:

But with dinker u can be more broad because there are so many little patterns, colors, blushings, bands, stripes u can try to prove out as they're own, or use to clean up a morph. Paradox is pretty much well defined.:D
 
Paradox by definition is a contradiction, making any contradiction from the overall pattern a paradox. This does not mean that it needs 2 morphs to be a paradox, just 2 differant patterns. Do I feel that a snake that has a 1-5% pattern contradiction should be laveled a paradox? NO NO NO! But does that not allow a person showing or selling said snake to note the variation? Do I feel it's worth 1 penny more? Again NO NO NO! I agree with your issue with using it as a sales tactic, but since I have no intention of selling her this is a nonissue here. I too have seen it used in the classifieds and at times said "Get the *&#* outta here. If I were to put this up for sale I would not use the term paradox, but state that she has some unique spots on her that are pretty, but would not adjust the price at all. Figured I would clear up what my opinion was.
 
Sorry Robert, missed your last post before I replied. First off thank you for your considerate response and please no need to go digging for the past examples on my account, I've seen a number of the same ones myself. I took no insult to me or my animal. These boards are here for this purpose, discussion and at times debate. We will all have differing opinions, and my skin is definately thick enough to respect anothers opinion, even and at times especially when it differs from mine or the "norm". Have a great day.
 
I think people have latched onto the term, and many just like using it. A smudge of black (or black spots) on the side of a lesser - while possibly being far enough out of the established look to merit the term paradox - is not really in the same category as the look it has come to describe (in reference to a snake's appearance). Personally, I just use the obvious descriptor "ugly spot".

As far as the snake in question, I saw the post when it first went up.....and my feeling is if I have to look that hard to see it, I'm probably not going to agree with the use of the term paradox in the description. How much does that matter in the grand scheme of things? Not a whole heck of a lot. Must be a slow day on the BOI....:shrug01:


(Yeah, I know, the more times people use the term to describe things we don't think it applies to, the more people will think its the accepted term for all those things. It spreads, and before we know it, misuse is rampant. Oh, wait a second, that already happened.)
 
hhmoore said:
I think people have latched onto the term, and many just like using it. A smudge of black (or black spots) on the side of a lesser - while possibly being far enough out of the established look to merit the term paradox - is not really in the same category as the look it has come to describe (in reference to a snake's appearance). Personally, I just use the obvious descriptor "ugly spot".

As far as the snake in question, I saw the post when it first went up.....and my feeling is if I have to look that hard to see it, I'm probably not going to agree with the use of the term paradox in the description. How much does that matter in the grand scheme of things? Not a whole heck of a lot. Must be a slow day on the BOI....:shrug01:


(Yeah, I know, the more times people use the term to describe things we don't think it applies to, the more people will think its the accepted term for all those things. It spreads, and before we know it, misuse is rampant. Oh, wait a second, that already happened.)
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Thats really funny Harold, you should just give up on the BOI and stick to the discussions they seem to be much more fun. At least you can have fun in this part of fauna.
 
I AGREE!!! On paradox being over used..havent read the rest of this thread yet..so excuse me if Im out of sinc..
 
Wow! One must be very cautious when using adjective's on this site. LOL. What's funny is I'm of the same opinion as most of you but this thread originated after a post of mine. When I see a snake advertised as " paradox Suma ( super cinni)" I expect to see a drastic shattered pattern or some crazy color or variation all over the snake and at times you click to look and there is one faded spot, that actually lowers the value to me. This is hypothetically speaking not making a referance to any real snake or person. I've also seen some stunning animals that while they may not pass their insane look to offspring are worth an additional amount based on their unique nature.

Dustin I agree the discussions are much more fun. Avoid the BOI for the most part unless I'm looking for someone or posting a thread. While I don't mind a good debate I try to be alittle more light hearted then the BOI would allow. Happy Herping all.
 
Yeah definitely look at the BOI before buying. The Suma is a super mohogany not a super cinni. Looks very similar though.
 
I didn't know that thanks Dustin. No wonder I saw the suma on World of ballpythons and every super cinni I've seen since hasn't lived up, while a few where awesome, they just were not quite as clean as the Suma.
 
Yeah the suma is pretty sweet, Its the main ingredient in the gold dust, I believe anyway. Its a project BHB is working with.
 
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