Warning: Dogs dying, no recall from PURINA

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Everyone beware! As most know, I lost almost my entire rat colony last summer from a Purina / Land O' Lakes / MAZURI RECALL in 2012.

To further express why you should be aware of this food, my dog recently passed away due to unknown reasons that I wrote off as old age. Now I am really starting to wonder because this was the SAME EXACT dog food that she was eating and she exhibited the same symptoms:

http://www.examiner.com/article/pur...lling-dogs-nationwide-no-recall-issued-by-fda
 
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Thanks. Going to post this on facebook.
 
JColt said:
Thanks. Going to post this on facebook.
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Thanks Joe. This is the second time my pets have been subjected to possibly compromised food (one time confirmed) and I only found out through fellow enthusiasts and social networking.
 
Thanks for the info, Nick. I use Mazuri, so this is distressing.
 
In my professional opinion:

Dog's get sick and die for a lot of mysterious reasons, and unless you have A LOT of money, you often never find out the cause. It's far more likely that these dogs were sickened for various reasons, and coincidentally they all eat Beneful. You could make the same argument with humans that broccoli kills people because a bunch of people got sick and died and also eat broccoli.

There's nothing out there that would cause such severe disease in only a few dogs of different breeds. Kidney and liver failure, neurological disorders, infections, collapse, severe vomiting and diarrhea, and death are serious enough so that many many more of the millions of dogs that eat this food would be ill. And a food causing skin tags to appear is just silly.
 
skirtinthedirt said:
In my professional opinion:

Dog's get sick and die for a lot of mysterious reasons, and unless you have A LOT of money, you often never find out the cause. It's far more likely that these dogs were sickened for various reasons, and coincidentally they all eat Beneful. You could make the same argument with humans that broccoli kills people because a bunch of people got sick and died and also eat broccoli.

There's nothing out there that would cause such severe disease in only a few dogs of different breeds. Kidney and liver failure, neurological disorders, infections, collapse, severe vomiting and diarrhea, and death are serious enough so that many many more of the millions of dogs that eat this food would be ill. And a food causing skin tags to appear is just silly.
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Yes, but Purina will only batch test after so many complaints, which happened with Mazuri this summer, and they were at fault and only after realizing this, they called a recall ... And I'm not even sure if they were forced to do that by the FDA.
 
Focal said:
Yes, but Purina will only batch test after so many complaints, which happened with Mazuri this summer, and they were at fault and only after realizing this, they called a recall ... And I'm not even sure if they were forced to do that by the FDA.
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Also, this was told to me by the Purina/Land O' Lakes Lawyer during my settlement last year. If this is in fact an issue, I imagine it will follow the same routine.
 
skirtinthedirt said:
In my professional opinion:
There's nothing out there that would cause such severe disease in only a few dogs of different breeds. Kidney and liver failure, neurological disorders, infections, collapse, severe vomiting and diarrhea, and death are serious enough so that many many more of the millions of dogs that eat this food would be ill. And a food causing skin tags to appear is just silly.
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Sorry I couldn't let this go. Maybe most people haven't figured it out yet. Good ol' faithful Purina isn't letting their customers know ... just like they didn't the last time they admitted guilt in the end. My dog died two months ago and I am just now thinking this may have been the cause. The food recall that killed my animals last year was made in March or May and it wasn't until July/August that I found out about a recall that was already in place. People need time to find out. Purina did not even let my distributor know ... I had to.

This isn't even at the recall phase yet, so writing this off when you aren't even sure what's in this food that's causing these issues ... comes off as rude to me. The elevated levels of Vitamin A in the Mazuri was causing all of my offspring to die after birth. How could I have ever figured this out coming from the babies? They never touched the food. Well, the nursing mothers were refusing to eat the food and eating their young instead, which was causing more females to die then males because the Vitamin A was in the milk. So now we have a sex and age based symptons ... how's that really that far off from affecting some dogs and not others. Seems plausible in my unprofessional opinion :shrug01: Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to hear how you came to that conclusion.
 
Nothing I said was rude, I don't know why you would take it that way.

Just seems a bit early to decide that Beneful is killing dogs. My point is that AT THIS POINT I see no evidence to support that.

Get a few thousand reports of the same thing together with an identifiable contaminate or ingredient and I'll jump on the train.
 
Not every dog that had jerky treats from China died or got ill but hundreds did. If it is suspected, it needs recalled.
 
skirtinthedirt said:
Nothing I said was rude, I don't know why you would take it that way.
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Sorry, it seemed like you have disbelief in all the people that lost their pets. I understand your point, but sadly enough, so many people have to come forward with "baseless" claims before this company will step up to check it out. Because you are right, it would cost a lot of money to prove this, and Purina knows this. That's why they will take no action until a "mob" of pissed off pet owners form.
 
skirtinthedirt said:
In my professional opinion:

Dog's get sick and die for a lot of mysterious reasons, and unless you have A LOT of money, you often never find out the cause. It's far more likely that these dogs were sickened for various reasons, and coincidentally they all eat Beneful. You could make the same argument with humans that broccoli kills people because a bunch of people got sick and died and also eat broccoli.

There's nothing out there that would cause such severe disease in only a few dogs of different breeds. Kidney and liver failure, neurological disorders, infections, collapse, severe vomiting and diarrhea, and death are serious enough so that many many more of the millions of dogs that eat this food would be ill. And a food causing skin tags to appear is just silly.
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:iagree: This is why a necropsy should be in order if you truly want backing evidence against Purina to fight this, otherwise its a lost cause that can be merely tagged as unfortunate and coincidental.
 
JColt said:
Not every dog that had jerky treats from China died or got ill but hundreds did. If it is suspected, it needs recalled.
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True, and I wouldn't doubt that a few deaths were unrelated. When I was speaking to the settlement Lawyer, she told me it was mostly hogs being affected by the Mazuri recall. I was only one of two people that filed complaints for rats which made me feel a little crazy but my batch checked out. I would assume that most people that were affected, have long buried their rats and used all the food; almost seems like a good enough reason to stall. I just threw that bag of Beneful out last week, but if I still had it, I would be taking note of the batch number, only after knowing what I know now.
 
hadenglock said:
:iagree: This is why a necropsy should be in order if you truly want backing evidence against Purina to fight this, otherwise its a lost cause that can be merely tagged as unfortunate and coincidental.
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No you don't. I didn't have to when I handled the issue with my rats. As history has shown, they own up to their mistakes, but getting them to address and investigate their mistakes is the challenge.

I don't see how trying to hinder owners for looking for the answers to their pets death is beneficial.
 
Nick, I'm sorry about your rats and your dog. I do think that if you suspect something about a product, that it is good to share so that more eyes are on the problem, including company eyes and dog owner eyes and sometimes, legal eyes.
It isn't just dogs either where it seems as if a lot is needed before some action is taken. If anyone remembers back that far, it took a ton of evidence and a lot of fighting before tobacco and cancer were officially linked.

I gave up buying Purina dog food a while back because they seemed to be using a lot of cheap ground corn and charging as if they were using more expensive ingredients. But before I started reading labels, I really got taken in by the dog food advertising, the happy woofing dogs and smiling people.
 
I also apologize for the title. I guess it's misleading since it isn't admitted/proven yet.
 
Nick, Within 3 min's of posting on facebook, one of my co workers said she just threw it out and going to get something else! Thanks again.
 
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