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Posted 12/19/2024.
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I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?
So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.
But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.
Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.
I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.
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Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.
And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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Bad Guy Scammed by Andrew Michael Popp Las Vegas, NV
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The IP address thing would be more incriminating if they didn't happen to live in the same city. Multiple people using the same service provider in the same metropolitan area, yet connecting to different access points, can and do sometimes have the same IP address. We don't know Andrew or how much credibility he actually has, but in and of itself, the shared IP address is far from conclusive proof of a sockpuppet.
http://www.howtogeek.com/247452/is-...nt-people-to-have-the-same-public-ip-address/
http://www.howtogeek.com/247452/is-...nt-people-to-have-the-same-public-ip-address/
I don't know what to think, Andrew. I can vouch for Dan's computer expertise, so the matching IP addresses, while pretty damning, may have a valid explanation from what Dan has written.
But when I asked you earlier today about this new member, you said it was a friend of yours. You never mentioned anything about a brother.
But when I asked you earlier today about this new member, you said it was a friend of yours. You never mentioned anything about a brother.
Seems like a good time to dust off [email protected] and see if Andy Johnson is willing to prove himself as a separate entity.
To be honest and fair, I wouldn't really say I have any "expertise." I just know a few things about a few things, and I'm typically bored enough to do minimal research on what I don't already know.
My personal opinion is that, while clearly interesting as a bit of happenstance, the sudden sockpuppet appearance doesn't really seem to fit with how Popp was conducting himself since he chose to address this thread. By itself, the shared IP address doesn't really compel me to assume he's up to no good. The call isn't necessarily "coming from inside the house," as Nick put it.
For clarity's sake, that was not the only IP address with a full network ID and full host ID match. There were full matches of more than one IP address. It was the only IP address with such a match that I decided to take an image of for sharing. There are a couple of ways you could interpret this. One is more generous than the other.
calebroad
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SUCCESS!!
Long day - tired as crap. And had to extend my trip time here.
Although things do not move lighting fast, as I would like.
I understand the system takes time, and I am very impressed with the judges, officers, and authorities in Las Vegas. True professionals
But the lawsuits are filed, now working on warrants. Obviously that's ultimately not my call and the DA will determine that.
Long day - tired as crap. And had to extend my trip time here.
Although things do not move lighting fast, as I would like.
I understand the system takes time, and I am very impressed with the judges, officers, and authorities in Las Vegas. True professionals
But the lawsuits are filed, now working on warrants. Obviously that's ultimately not my call and the DA will determine that.
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Not disagreeing, but the attached document will provide much more information regarding Network address Translators and their use while the world transitions to IPV6.
Networking was never something that interested me very much, so I never cared to learn much about it. I'm sure that document is well over my head. My post was simply to show that, based upon the limited information available at that time, a single, shared IP address didn't necessarily prove shenanigans.
It doesn't PROVE shenanigans, no. In much the same way that a dog standing by a pair of chewed-up slippers doesn't PROVE that the dog did the chewing. It is possible there's another explanation for the slippers? Yes. Is it the most likely explanation? Not by a long shot.
Robert Walker
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Andy (Reptile over people), since you are here viewing this thread right now, you have a PM (private message) needing your attention. Top right of your screen.
...is a bit of hyperbole that fails to consider the specifics. The IP address Nick supplied belongs to Hughes Network Systems. HughesNet is apparently a bit of an oddity among ISPs. This appears to be one of the situations where IP alone can't really be used as a personal identifier. Obviously, that relies on the assumption that they're "both" using Hughes. It may very well be one person making all of the posts; unfortunately, considering the actual provider, the shared IP address alone doesn't make shenanigans nearly as likely as the chewed-slippers analogy suggests.
https://jacksontech.net/index.php/articles/hughesnet-networking-faq/
calebroad
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I'll be the first to admit, Andrew Popp is cunning, meticulous, and he sounds professional on the phone. But it's unfortunate he does not know when to throw in the towel. I'm not careless and I feel like I used due regard and due diligence in this transaction. But did I get scammed? - yes I did.
He reminds me of google (has an answer for everything)
But its the pointed direct, questions that he cowards away from. I wish we could all stand in a big room and let one another ask questions, then I could articulate how bold this was.
It's probably the listing from July (as non hets) that was his major undoing. That's a smoking gun. He even reluctantly admitted it.
Now he is threatening to sue my wife? - Andrew, man, I'm just gonna not comment on that.
Please find three pictures attached, one is of my 7 inch adult turtle, and next to my adult you will see andrew Popps "Adult Turtle".
Also please notice my screen shot of text messages, where Andrew agreed to refund (after we confronted him with the July posting match)
Also, please notice another texts, saying he has some snake gonna breed and that's how he would eventually repay.
You know, if you still have doubts - you will likely never believe this was a scam. And that's okay - everyone is entitled.
But I know I can prove beyond a reasonable doubt 100%. When I return back to ATL, I am willing to post more proof. But please message me, and say exactly what you would like to see, I will accommodate as best I can. Also please give me a pass on typos - I'm traveling and using mobile devices.
-Chris Davis
He reminds me of google (has an answer for everything)
But its the pointed direct, questions that he cowards away from. I wish we could all stand in a big room and let one another ask questions, then I could articulate how bold this was.
It's probably the listing from July (as non hets) that was his major undoing. That's a smoking gun. He even reluctantly admitted it.
Now he is threatening to sue my wife? - Andrew, man, I'm just gonna not comment on that.
Please find three pictures attached, one is of my 7 inch adult turtle, and next to my adult you will see andrew Popps "Adult Turtle".
Also please notice my screen shot of text messages, where Andrew agreed to refund (after we confronted him with the July posting match)
Also, please notice another texts, saying he has some snake gonna breed and that's how he would eventually repay.
You know, if you still have doubts - you will likely never believe this was a scam. And that's okay - everyone is entitled.
But I know I can prove beyond a reasonable doubt 100%. When I return back to ATL, I am willing to post more proof. But please message me, and say exactly what you would like to see, I will accommodate as best I can. Also please give me a pass on typos - I'm traveling and using mobile devices.
-Chris Davis
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You spoke with a judge?
I have to wonder why you didn't put as much stock into the notion that IPs aren't so accurate in condemning someone as you did regarding me in the Garrett Smith (frogman) thread where you wanted everyone to see the "real" Chris Kennard. You were way off. I guess when opportunity knocks...
I understood the original point, but the issue becomes one of circumstances and probability at some point... for example, a simple ARIN query shows that the IP range assigned to HughesNet is 67.142.0.0 - 67.143.255.255, which allows for ~130,000 public IP addresses. Now, obviously they may have a single public IP for all their residential/non-upgraded subscribers that have not paid for a static IP, and hide them ALL behind a giant double-NAT, but that seems a bit far-fetched. On would assume a distributed system that has a range of assignable gateways/addresses, probably assigned by geography for latency concerns. From annual reports, it looks like Hughes may have around 1M customers, so for a majority of those IPs to have gone to customers paying for their own static IP, would require about 1 in every 10 subscribers opting for that... which is ludicrous. Circumstances being what they are, it's not unreasonable to take this as evidence of shared. Of course it's not a slam dunk, but unless the web server logs contain IPv6 information in the HTTP headers, we won't have that anyway.
Sorry, was not trying to question your knowledge, but it's not really as open-ended as you left it.
If the "stress" is no longer "getting to" you, you could just do what I already suggested. I know you caught it the first time around, but here it is again:
If you have recordings of him flat-out admitting that he scammed you, what more could you possibly need to post in order to put the matter to rest?
IP address had nothing to do with that. You got banned; someone immediately started spamming the thread. 2 + 2 appeared to be 4. It was a reasonable suspicion that others openly shared. I'm sure it's just a matter of faulty memory and not inherent dishonesty.ChrisKennard said:
Try again.If the "stress" is no longer "getting to" you, you could just do what I already suggested. I know you caught it the first time around, but here it is again:
If you have recordings of him flat-out admitting that he scammed you, what more could you possibly need to post in order to put the matter to rest?
IP address had nothing to do with that. You got banned; someone immediately started spamming the thread. 2 + 2 appeared to be 4. It was a reasonable suspicion that others openly shared. I'm sure it's just a matter of faulty memory and not inherent dishonesty.
No need to try again. Like I said, opprtunity knocked, and proof meant squat to you then. Post 1188 of the Garrett Smith (scammer) thread proves it. You are an opportunist, nothing more. You were wrong. You didn't own it. You play things safe. I get that. While others may have "shared" your "suspicions", they didn't openly amplifly the condemnation you did in that post. But by all means, please share more about the IP phenomenon.
Again, IP played no part in that situation. To my knowledge, no IPs were ever posted or even discussed. Your choice to throw that into your whining just shows that the "real" Chris Kennard isn't above adding non-existent elements to a discussion. Can't say it even remotely surprises me.
I'm fairly confident that those familiar with that thread will see that the circumstances there show your comment about how much weight I give IP addresses is somewhere between idiotic and plainly deceptive. If not, it really doesn't make any difference to me. This thread isn't about your feewings, or Garrett Smith.
I'm fairly confident that those familiar with that thread will see that the circumstances there show your comment about how much weight I give IP addresses is somewhere between idiotic and plainly deceptive. If not, it really doesn't make any difference to me. This thread isn't about your feewings, or Garrett Smith.