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Orgy alert! Candoia (Fiji Boa) ovulation and mating

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Posted this and now am sure it was ovulation - mating photos in second post.
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I'm a newbie at breeding - the last mating I saw there was no visible ovulation at all. However I now have a snake who is swelling up like a (rather alarming) balloon.

She was wild caught and it is just possible that she was gravid when caught, I'm only noticing it now, and she is about to give birth. On the other hand, this has come up very suddenly (noticed 2 weeks ago that she was looking a bit "thick", and now she's positively bloated). This is a species that is pregnant for about 9 months, so nothing usually happens this fast.

She has been housed with males for a while, and it has just dropped to winter temps here which is normally breeding season, but I have not seen any copulations, or attempts at same.

So here are some pics of my swollen Fiji Boa - do you think this is ovulation, pregnancy, or do I have some other problem?

(PS - She hasn't eaten for 5 weeks, so it ain't food...)
 

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Ha Ha! Question answered!

Well, this morning the snakes themselves answered my question - 4 males and Lilith in one huge writhing lump, having a ball (Candoia seem to favour multiple males to get everything started) ..... so I guess it was a 3 week ovulation swell.

Grendal seems to have won the race for now, but as he has a short damaged tail I'm not certain he'll get the job done. The spurs are out and the movements are right, but the poor dear just can't do the tail twine thing.... :eek:

We shall see!
 

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Ah! Snake pron! My eyes! :D

Congratz! That male sure is handsome :)
 
Utta;1037011 Congratz! That male sure is handsome :)[/QUOTE said:
Thanks Utta, I think he went and shined himself up before coming out courting.

He's not getting it all his own way though - there is NO PRIVACY in the world of Fiji Boa Porn...... Threesomes, Foursomes, it's all happening! :ack2:
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fricken hooker! I'm suprised the males don't fight.
 
Hard to keep your mind out of the gutter when there's a perpetual orgy going on in the house! ;)

This morning, the tank looked quite serene, with a couple of heads poking coyly out of the log hide. However, when I picked the hide up, look at the degenerates I found underneath! :reddevil:

(please excuse messy newspaper - I wasn't about to disturb this lot just to give them a clean sheet right now - am waiting until they take a rest break...... :ack2:)

In all the tangle I can't even be sure who is loving her now, so I tried "Snake twister" to try and track everyone. She's traced in pink, the other 4 are the males currently courting, in what is apparently the standard Candoia "Multiple male" scenario. Notice the blushing bride is hiding her head under a log..... :eek:
 

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freak! Walkin in on an orgy like that, what were you thinkin? :rofl:
 
That is totally awesome Helen! I like the pic where you traced them too, I'd be doing the exact same thing. :D
 
I like this picture...

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They're like..."dude, your still not done? Come one man, we're waiting our turn!"
 
Actually I chickened out and interfered last night.

Got home and one of the males was wound around her tail like he was constricting the biggest rat he'd ever found, and his head was all scrunched against the front of the tank because of the others piling on top, while she tried to climb a tree.... they only needed ratty denims and colours and it would have been a veritable gangbang! :reddevil:

So I took everyone out for a breather (and a bath - they were all a bit slimy... :ack2:) and put her in a separate tank with only one male for the night (Grendal, he seemed to most deserve a honeymoon).

The others wandered around and coiled up with anyone who would have them for a while, but seem to have all calmed down now and gone back to normal, now that the pheremones have cleared a bit!

Other Candoia breeders say they let the multiple male thing start the party, but then separate the female with her favoured male. I had intended to let it go as nature intended (seeing as we are in close to natural conditions here), but I find I am more lily-livered than I thought - must be an ancestral prudish maiden aunt somewhere in the genes. :(

I'm going to put them back together tonight and see if they have learned better manners.....
 
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