• Posted 12/19/2024.
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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
  • Responding to email notices you receive.
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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

Bad Guy Nicole Norton (Howlin Gale' Dragons)

So... Shall we add the Dragon Whispers Tag to this thread now as well? Just curious because if someone is not smart enough to learn from others mistakes then it's obvious that they won't be in business long. Please DW.. take into consideration that the members of the site are a "Family" and will look out for one another as long as you prove yourself worthy. As of right now, you are not looking so good. To sit there and post a couple months ago that you were not affiliated with HG and all of a sudden now you are allowing her to sell "YOUR" Dragons/? It just doesn't make sense. Get the stories straight and Please READ CAREFULLY the other posts on HG. It's all there Black and White for you to see with your own eyes. Just because she is kissing your butt doesn't mean she'll turn around and screw you over once you do something or say something she doesn't agree with. Thread on Thin Ice if you want but It's a good thing your getting out of the business because associating with her is not such a brilliant idea.

Just my .02... Good Luck
 
So... Shall we add the Dragon Whispers Tag to this thread now as well? Just curious because if someone is not smart enough to learn from others mistakes then it's obvious that they won't be in business long. Please DW.. take into consideration that the members of the site are a "Family" and will look out for one another as long as you prove yourself worthy. As of right now, you are not looking so good. To sit there and post a couple months ago that you were not affiliated with HG and all of a sudden now you are allowing her to sell "YOUR" Dragons/? It just doesn't make sense. Get the stories straight and Please READ CAREFULLY the other posts on HG. It's all there Black and White for you to see with your own eyes. Just because she is kissing your butt doesn't mean she'll turn around and screw you over once you do something or say something she doesn't agree with. Thread on Thin Ice if you want but It's a good thing your getting out of the business because associating with her is not such a brilliant idea.

Just my .02... Good Luck

:iagree: A very good two sense. BUT with them two literally living within 5-10 mins of each other I doubt they will be apart for long.

I have spoken to Rhea before and has told me that she didnt want to be affiliated with H.G. But she keeps calling or coming down to there house.

But after seeing Nicole selling her dragons for her on the web, I guess it was the other way around. Someone should tell Rhea she;s not going to sell much with Nicole being her sales person!:yesnod:
 
Rhea, I'm sorry you're ill - I hope your recovery is complete and speedy.

I do see inconsistencies in what you posted back in June vs. now:
6-5-10, Post #123
"she takes her dragons to a local vet, but IDK if the vet she gets advise from online is up to par."

"I thought her heart was in the right place, but she would never say she sold a sick or bad dragon, even by mistake. Any good breeder would acknowledge that this could of happened and would deal with it accordingly."

"Please Note: WE HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH NICOLE NORTON ON A BUSINESS OR PERSONAL LEVEL! She seems to think just because she bought some dragons from us, she can put us down on her web site as an "associated breeder", and that to me is not true."

Post #125:
"Yes, and that's all I wanted to do to clear the air as some people seemed to have doubts of who was telling the truth. But I seen that Nicole altered her story, which should of been a good hint to everyone. I just wanted to clear our name, as she insinuated that we were telling stories"

"We have repeatedly tried to be nice to Nicole and even allowed her to come into our breeding area before she stated collecting dragons, and also told her some trade secrets to breeding and care. She seems to think that this was nothing, and told us so in not so nice of terms."

7-28-10, Post #146
"Nicole is a friend of ours and has been for many years" , etc, etc.

Defending her past behavior, poor business ethics, lies, childish drama and altered stories because she's now offered to help you sell a few dragons? You previously stated (in capital letters, no less) that there was no affiliation with Nicole, not professional OR personal - now she's been a friend for years.

Yes, it's kind that she's offered to help - but at what cost, I have to wonder?

As already pointed out, smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from other's mistakes.
 
Gonna get bad karma for this, cause I am being hit because I can't stay out of other people's business...but here goes.:rofl::rofl: Bring it on.:thumbsup:

Rhea is ill, per her admission *I am sorry, that sucks!*.

Nicole may have been the one who offered to help (Yes, I know that Nicole usually does things for her own benefit). Unfortunately, not many people will or are in a position to look a gift horse in the mouth, in fact, sometimes they prefer not to, else they see that the horse is dead and maggots are swarming in the all the orifices.

It's true. Politics DOES make strange bedfellows.:shrug01:
 
Gonna get bad karma for this, cause I am being hit because I can't stay out of other people's business...but here goes.:rofl::rofl: Bring it on.:thumbsup:

Rhea is ill, per her admission *I am sorry, that sucks!*.

Nicole may have been the one who offered to help (Yes, I know that Nicole usually does things for her own benefit). Unfortunately, not many people will or are in a position to look a gift horse in the mouth, in fact, sometimes they prefer not to, else they see that the horse is dead and maggots are swarming in the all the orifices.

It's true. Politics DOES make strange bedfellows.:shrug01:

It sounds like back-peddling to me :shrug01: Rhea had even stated that she should have listed her dragons herself... & as she has stated she knows many "big breeders", couldn't any of them have structured the same type of sales as Nicole?Or maybe would be interested in them themselves? I just find it strange that if there were other resources,why use Nicole? Why act as if they are so buddy buddy,yet not even 2 months ago they were trying to put as much ground between themselves & her as possible?
 
Well apparently Ed and Nichole are at least on speaking terms again as now Ed is selling that male citrus leather they had the huge falling out over(prince) on bd.org lol.
 
Well apparently Ed and Nichole are at least on speaking terms again as now Ed is selling that male citrus leather they had the huge falling out over(prince) on bd.org lol.

At least the lover's spat they had in public here clued us in more clearly to the perils that might be inherent in dealing with either or both of them.

It certainly looks like they are two of a kind, perhaps they were made for each other :rolleyes:
 
At least the lover's spat they had in public here clued us in more clearly to the perils that might be inherent in dealing with either or both of them.

It just verified what was already out there. But it did show trusting either one of them is a foolish thing to do. They would turn on anyone without a second thought, or probably a first.
 
Yup I deleted it :) Because your Harassment is not worth my time or energy I will make it very simple for you people to understand.

Go ahead try to sneak your sick attempts at Harassment on my Posts I will simply delete the post and put it back up it is not that hard to fix and is not effecting me I am having no trouble selling my dragons; in fact my dragons sell themselves they are healthy, well bred, and beautiful.

Rhea of Dragonz Whispers & I are good friends and I was asked to help her sell her dragons and I am doing just that. Rhea missunderstood which dragon was involved in the post Paul put up she thought it was a dragon I had gotten a while ago and it was not the dragon she thought it was I sold as a normal for $50 locally.

Unlike many people here on the BOI who live on drama and to try to hurt others I do not hold grudges and understand people misunderstand things. I have known Rhea from before I started breeding she helped me get into it and taught me everything she knew about dragons and breeding them.

She has been notified of this and will be posting.


Have a nice day :)


So you would call informing your potential customers of your shady deads harrassment? Here's a thought... clean up your act and you wouldn't have to worry about it.

Until then everyone deserves to know about your business ethics... or lack of it.
 
Asking a favor is a crime?

Nope... its not a crime. However it is probably safe to say that if you stand near a pile of crap long enough... you too will smell like crap. The point Im trying to make is do you really want to be associated with her reputation?
 
No, I go by what I experience, not what others experience. That's how I live my life anyway's, through my own eyes


If you do not learn from history... you are doomed to repeat it!

She has already shown that all she cares about is $$$. Do you honestly think she cares about friendship if she can make more $$$ without it?

You may want to take heed to others experience becuase they may teach you a thing or two.
 
Gonna be a short life. After all, you have possibly not yet experienced falling off of a roof, cuddling a venomous snake, sticking your tongue out at a cop, shooting uncut smack, eating spoiled food, driving through a red light, cheating the IRS, touching a downed electric line, and so on. Don't learn from others, make sure you experience everything first hand.:rolleyes:


Ouch!
 
At least the lover's spat they had in public here clued us in more clearly to the perils that might be inherent in dealing with either or both of them.

It certainly looks like they are two of a kind, perhaps they were made for each other :rolleyes:

Now thats just disturbing and scarry :eek:
 
Yep..Two crooks letting everyone in on how they both screwed people over...All their skeletons came out of the closet and are now chillin on the front porch for all to see...Not that they were good at hiding anything to begin with lol..
 
Yep..Two crooks letting everyone in on how they both screwed people over...All their skeletons came out of the closet and are now chillin on the front porch for all to see...Not that they were good at hiding anything to begin with lol..

And then they go about business as usual. No changes just the same spots on both of these leopards.
 
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