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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

first time Hogg Island Boa Breeder

I wouldn't say they are pure hogs now that I know they are not pure.
They are still half hog, and that does matter. Idc about other people's breeding purposes. They are just pets. They shouldn't have to spend their life in a small bin on a rack anyway.
 
Thanks for the input.
I just want to breed them for my own hobby. Chances are I'll end up keeping all the babies.
I've got rats for days.
Have nearly 5000 rats so feeding won't be an issue.
 
No need for hostile responses. I'm not mad for the record. I am thankful for what info that has been provided. I am now looking for the best way to make the prettiest snakes I can with what I have for my own self.
If there's anything I can breed them to, for myself mind you, I'd like to know what can be added to the genes I have to make a beautiful snake.
 
if i wanted to invest in gold i would have already. i enjoy snakes, stop being so rude. I was asking questions, in a place full of information, and got treated like shit for asking those questions.
 
Sorry you don't like the fact that I'm going to knowingly breed a crossbreed.
Ever heart of crossing two purebreed dogs to make something amazing?
Its not like I'm sending a rock python gene around. Ffs.
 
Aaaaaand, it continues. Jacob - welcome to FaunaClassifieds - home of the hard truth, with little of that sticky candy coating.
As I stated earlier, in response to your question about value/worth - those boas are worth no more than common boas...and, in the eyes of many, they're worth less. We understand that is a bit of a slap, even more so when you realize that you've been cheated; it's just, for many of us, hog island crosses are not a good thing because they corrupt an already limited bloodline.
Now, you've said you're going to breed them anyway. That is your choice, you (over)paid for them. My suggestion is that if you are set on your plan, and you so dislike the information you are being given, that you simply let the discussion go. Do what you are going to do, and honestly represent the babies when you decide to sell them. There are lots of people that buy cheap boas for pets - they will be your market. Yes - all they will be is cheap boas...try to make them anything more, and you'll be housing them yourself.
For now, you need to slow yourself down a little bit. You've accepted that they aren't pure hog island boas...but, by saying they are still half hog island, you are still misrepresenting them. The bottom line is that you don't know how much hog island is in them. The best thing you can do is lose the hog island fixation you currently (and understandably) have. They're just pretty boas.
As far as breeding options - hypo, motley, or a nice pastel would work for you. Enjoy your boas...you wandered into a touchy subject, that just speaks to the passion people have for these animals. Make the best of it, learn from it (the people posting on this thread are excellent resources), and understand that it's nothing personal.
 
Until you can verify exactly where they come from(breeding) you can not rightfully carry
any form of locality label.Attempting to accurately split DNA with an assumption and diluted visual reference leaves you well outside 50% of anything which,as you have already been told is "nothing".

Plant a white flag already . . . . .
 
Thank you HHMoore.
They are still part hogs though, which is important to me. I'm not trying to add to the hog gene pool and keep that particular snake going, there's plenty of others who do that now.
I appriceate you actually answering my question to your fullest abilities.
See I didn't plan on getting crosses, and I feel people are jumping my shit because I am going to breed these halfies anyway.
It comes down to people who are pro hybrid and people who are con hybrid.
Regardless, I didn't plan to buy hybrids. I do however have to work with what I currently have.
Could you possibly tell me a little more about those morphs you listed and what they may do to the beauty of these snakes?
 
So ... you're going with the make lemonade approach, eh?

I am not sure if denial is the issue here or you just flat do not care. I would love to know how you are going to house and care for potentially 30+ boas that you are going to have a hard time to sell.

People are "jumping on you" because you are acting like a fool.

You are going to breed them just because. That's really what it comes down to and that's an irresponsible reason and way to breed.
 
@Meta, gathering other helpful info to make the best out of what I do have. Can't blame a man for that.
You get delt a card, and it's up to the holder how they play it. I'm just asking others to give me ideas of what to breed them with to make more pretts boas. Hhmoore has been a great help throughout this whole post.
If more people would do as HH is, and actually give info on what I can breed what I am now stuck with to make more pretty boas.
Such as what can I add to them to have any more beautiful offspring.

Telling me to wave my white flag is just another way of being rude.
 
You're basically saying "Just tell me what I want to hear and we're all gravy".

You got people's opinions on what you can breed them too. The answer is "nothing" or, basically "whatever you want". Making them "pretty" takes a lot of time and effort and should be started with better stock.
 
Oh my god. How many times do I have to say this; "I am not breeding to sell them, I am breeding to make pretty snakes with the ones I currently have."
I will go out and buy others to actually do something with, I like the way these look and want a project for myself that is solely for myself.

Did you forget I have 5000 rats to feed to them? Housing is no issue for me.
 
Let's say you get 28 babies.

You're keeping all 28 babies for the entirety of their lives?

For potentially forty years?
 
HHMoore gave me the only answer that actually answered what I am asking.
Looking for more people who will answer with that to cross them with. Idc about time or worth, how many damn times do I need to say I am doing this for me? Not for commercial sale. Get that straight. If you oppose me breeding them, say your peace and go on with your life. If you want to add options to the table for me to breed my current snakes to to make more beautiful snakes, then please do. I don't care how long it takes, this is a HOBBY. Something I've done since I was a young child.
 
Here's the thing that you and other people seem to forget ...

This is a public forum.

Where the public can respond.

I am entitled to respond however many times I wish for as long as the thread is open.

Just because it is not what you do not want to hear, does not mean I cannot say it.

You're the one getting hostile and defensive, throwing around vulgarities and such.

Maybe if you took a step back for a moment you would realize you are not ready to be breeding these animals. You were not even capable of looking at your boas and seeing they are not full Hogs. This is not an insult, it is an observation of someone who clearly needs to spend more time doing research on boas and on breeding boas.

Very few people make a full business from this. It is a hobby to many of them. It is a hobby to me.

Why breed boas you do not intend to sell the offspring of? You do realize many, many boas die every year from complications due to breeding, correct? Why risk killing off animals that could be nice, comfortable pets just to make "pretty boas" for yourself? You said that breeding them is better than them sitting in tubs all day and I fail to see the logic in that (not that boas of that size should be in tubs unless they are Freedom Breeders or ARS. Those boas will be perfectly happy and content in life to just live without breeding.

Every way you are trying to rationalize it is really not right.
 
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