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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

Are you going to take the COVID vaccine?

Are you going to take the COVID vaccine?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 53.3%
  • No

    Votes: 7 23.3%
  • Depends on what happens to early beta testers

    Votes: 4 13.3%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 3 10.0%

  • Total voters
    30

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When it is offered to you, are you going to take the COVID vaccine? I'm curious to hear what people are thinking about this.

I wanted to keep the poll simple, but fill in any blanks with discussions in this thread, if so inclined.
 
No. I had Covid in august and did not die or feel I was going to die. My Girlfriend had corvid and did not die. I am a prison nurse and while working at a prison during the lockdown over 900 inmates tested positive and only 4 required serious medical attention. of those 4 inmates 2 were diabetics and two were elderly. None of those 4 none died. When did have to be hospitalized for pneumonia and then returned back to the prison. This prison which I will not name has no A/C Rats and cockroaches everywhere horrible food (point is terrible living conditions). And 0 out of over 900 that tested positive died. Not including a heart attack that was completely not covid related and a renal failure death from a catheter related uti. Id love to give even more info but have to protect location and identities but you can look my name up on the Registered nurse florida registry
 
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No. I had Covid in august and did not die or feel I was going to die. My Girlfriend had corvid and did not die. I am a prison nurse and while working at a prison during the lockdown over 900 inmates tested positive and only 4 required serious medical attention. of those 4 inmates 2 were diabetics and two were elderly. None of those 4 none died. When did have to be hospitalized for pneumonia and then returned back to the prison. This prison which I will not name has no A/C Rats and cockroaches everywhere horrible food (point is terrible living conditions). And 0 out of over 900 that tested positive died. Not including a heart attack that was completely not covid related and a renal failure death from a catheter related uti. Id love to give even more info but have to protect location and identities but you can look my name up on the Registered nurse florida registry

Another nurse elderly multiple cardiac and endocrine problems caught it as well, was out of work for a month got hospitalized turned into pneumonia.........Hes back at work with the same shitty attitude he had before it all
 
Of course I am.

The fact that we live in a supposedly developed country where a significant percentage of the population thinks their gut feeling, or three anecdotes, or some thing that happened to their great aunt, or some crap they heard at the bar overrides established scientific knowledge scares the S^(&* out of me. The average person now doesn't seem to understand statistical risk any more now than people did during the 20th century flu pandemic, the 19th century cholera outbreak, or the 14th century Black Death.
 
Of course I am.

The fact that we live in a supposedly developed country where a significant percentage of the population thinks their gut feeling, or three anecdotes, or some thing that happened to their great aunt, or some crap they heard at the bar overrides established scientific knowledge scares the S^(&* out of me. The average person now doesn't seem to understand statistical risk any more now than people did during the 20th century flu pandemic, the 19th century cholera outbreak, or the 14th century Black Death.

You make a good point. I was leaning towards no at first. I'm not an anti-vaxer by any means. If I had kids I'd get them all the required shots because I believe in them and I believe the proven positives far outweigh the potential negatives (I'm not talking about the tinfoil hat theories either, I'm talking a bout real potential negatives) I voted I don't know because I honestly don't know but as of now I'm leaning toward most likely yes.

Covid isn't going away anytime soon and without the vaccine it will last even longer and the longer it lasts the longer the restrictions will last. Its not just about is this a survivable illness, for the vast majority of people it is and for them as individuals the vaccine may seem pointless. People look at how they personally may be affected and don't think its worth it because they feel they may just get a little sick for a little while. What they don't realize is that if they do get get sick and are counted as a statistic it will only increase the likelihood of restrictions lasting longer by adding to the numbers. Get the vaccine, don't get sick, don't add to the numbers.

Obviously if something comes out that it isn't effective or worse it can be dangerous that's a different story but right now I view the "I'm not getting it" attitude as somewhat selfish.

Its kind of like the masks. They are a bit of a PITA but for the most part wearing one is not that big of a deal. For the majority of those who won't wear one its simply because they refuse to be told what to do. If a tiny bit of inconvenience to you makes others feel safer and might help the problem to them I say grow up. Its not always about you.

To me a better question, and one that should have been asked from the start is if you do show symptoms would you go get tested if it wasn't required of you or would you just wait it out at home taking the suggested precautions.
 
I wasn't planning on it any time soon though I likely will eventually. I rarely mingle with others, I am now working from home most of the time, and I'm not considered at high risk of having a bad outcome even if I do get it.
 
Working at a police/ jail it will probably be mandatory but since I had open heart surgery with lung collapse and wife has asthma it is probably smart thing to do.
 
I will eventually, since I have lung problems and a malformed heart valve. My wife is a nurse and works occasionally with infected patients. She got the vaccine in the first wave. She had no adverse reactions, same sort of things as with the flu vaccine.
 
Working at a police/ jail it will probably be mandatory but since I had open heart surgery with lung collapse and wife has asthma it is probably smart thing to do.

In fl prisons dont even make us get the flu shot so might have a choice.
 
I am pissed at the stories of incompetent distribution, with doses going bad because they could not be given timely.
Originally I was going to wait and see. But the more I do see, the more persuaded I am that it would be a good idea to get the vax. I am at very high risk of death should I get Covid.
And while I understand, no, make that I treasure, thoughtfully made decisions by individuals relating to health mandates who understand the disease and who are careful to maintain behaviors that protect others, I'll be damned if I let some yahoo who is simply lazy or uninformed end my life by infecting me.
 
I was curious about how the vaccine actually works, so these two videos seem to be helpful in that regard.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7k8dDCvrrc




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvaJnXP9VoY


I am taking this all with a grain of salt. Just something about this makes my skin crawl, but I can't put my finger on what exactly about it that is raising my hackles. Quite honestly, when I read and watch things of this nature, with mankind digging into the building blocks of life itself, I tend to get a mental image of a bunch of monkeys standing in the middle of a world filled with leaking tanks of gasoline, pecking away at a locked box containing a box of matches.

Personally, no, I will not be taking the vaccine. At least not for a good year or so, if ever. I do not trust the media, especially when they come across as a cheering section for certain issues. It appears that any "discouraging words" about the vaccine are being tromped on in Youtube and Google, so again, that puts me on high alert that something is amiss with what we are being allowed to see.

BTW, I stumbled on an alternative video site that seems to have some potential of allowing things that YouTube won't allow to be presented to the public. -> https://brandnewtube.com/videos/latest?page_id=1 FWIW.

Everything about this COVID thing just stinks, IMHO. From it blowing up at Wuhan, China, then "escaping" out into the world, then suddenly China basically clearing itself of the virus while the rest of the world appears to be getting worse. At least according to the mainstream media. So in my opinion, jumping too quickly into ANYTHING based on limited input, and especially obviously biased input, may be ill advised.

Fear is a tremendous motivator. I will try real hard to not allow fear to push me in some direction that others want to push me. Not unless I agree, based on all available evidence, that there is a damn good reason to be afraid. And right now, I just do not KNOW.
 
Whether or not you have had Covid, or do not think you are in a high risk group, the only socially responsible thing to do is take the vaccine and stop it spreading through the community. We'd still have Polio crippling children if there had not been a global vaccine programme for that.
On the other hand, I am in an underdeveloped country where we are likely not to get a choice of which vaccine we get, and I would want to be certain we were getting one that had been through proper trials, rather than being inadvertently part of a trial of one that had been rushed out...
 
Of course I am.

The fact that we live in a supposedly developed country where a significant percentage of the population thinks their gut feeling, or three anecdotes, or some thing that happened to their great aunt, or some crap they heard at the bar overrides established scientific knowledge scares the S^(&* out of me. The average person now doesn't seem to understand statistical risk any more now than people did during the 20th century flu pandemic, the 19th century cholera outbreak, or the 14th century Black Death.

The second first hand accounts and real life experiences takes a back seat to "Scientific knowledge" is the exact second you become a slave.

Scientific articles are great........Until they don't reflect what is actually occurring.
Not to mention always consider the source there A LOT of corruption and money behind MOST of these scientific studies that bring about this "scientific knowledge" that does NOT reflect real life occurrences
 
The second first hand accounts and real life experiences takes a back seat to "Scientific knowledge" is the exact second you become a slave.

Scientific articles are great........Until they don't reflect what is actually occurring.
Not to mention always consider the source there A LOT of corruption and money behind MOST of these scientific studies that bring about this "scientific knowledge" that does NOT reflect real life occurrences

Interesting point. It is surprising the number of people who seem to believe that scientists are incorruptible and/or infallible.
 
All of you make good points for, and against, getting the vaccine, which is why my answer is, "I don't know".

I suppose we all have to consider our age, lifestyles, any existing health issues, and try to make an informed decision.

I'm no longer in the working world, have no children, and we live in a small town of less than 900 people. I don't really interact with anyone, and wear a mask when I go into town to get groceries. My personal risk is low, so I'm going to hold off for now.
 
I read something a while back about a SARS vaccine being developed, I believe in China. From what I recall, all of the test subjects given that particular vaccine died when they were introduced to the actual virus.

Tried to find this article again, without any luck. I found it about a year ago when I first started looking into this Wuhan virus, so it wasn't THAT long ago.

I believe the discussion was centered around the possibility that the Wuhan lab was continuing working on a vaccine, and this COVID virus was a test virus enhanced to be easier to infect test subjects and to be resistant to the immune system so they could test for it longer without it being wiped out by the test subject's immune system. Speculation was that it was this virus that escaped into the wild.

I've been reading so much stuff about this for the past year, that it is difficult to backtrack to find resources that I had discovered along the way. That, and I'm not all that sure that those resources will even be easy to find any longer.

But FWIW......... :shrug01:
 
I received the first dose of the Moderna version. It was uneventful. Looking forward to getting the second dose administered later this month.
 
I was reading where one of the stipulations about getting the vaccination was that you must not already HAVE a current COVID infection. So do they test you before giving the vaccination?

I'm seeing numbers of active infections rising in my county and curious about what is going on. I suppose it is too soon to see any immunity to infection from being vaccinated reflected in the case numbers yet.

If this works, I wonder what new impending catastrophe will start making the headlines?

Speaking of which, was anyone claiming that global warming might help kick back the COVID infections? What a dilemma THAT would be! :hehe:

And in another vein, I was reading about "vaccination passports" being bandied about. But eh? :confused: If the vaccination works, why would the vaccinated be concerned about those who are not vaccinated? If people decline the vaccination, certainly that wouldn't make them infectious "Typhoid Marys" to the vaccinated, would it? So I don't understand the point of the "passports". If the vaccination works, then I thought the whole point was to eliminate, or at least greatly reduce, the susceptibility of the vaccinated to becoming infected with COVID. So again, why require exclusions for the unvaccinated that do not have the "passport"? :shrug01:
 
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