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I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?
So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.
But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.
Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.
I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.
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Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.
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reptilechick
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Good Guy
Ok~
I know I am going to get one heck of a bashing here, and ya know what, I could care less!! I think what Neil did for Sal is admirable! Any friend that would do that for another deserves major props!!
Tricia Smith
Ok~
I know I am going to get one heck of a bashing here, and ya know what, I could care less!! I think what Neil did for Sal is admirable! Any friend that would do that for another deserves major props!!
Tricia Smith
Wilomn
New member
Look at it this way Tricia.
Your cousin salito comes to visit you from New York. He has been in trouble many times for lying and deception. He's been caught stealing more than two or three times as well. But he's your friend.
Now, while you're at the grocery with cousin salito, picking up dinner fixin's, a nice little old lady comes by with her purse open and he wallet in plain sight. Cousin salito remarked that it was easliy seen.
Not too long after his comment you see the poor little old lady talking to the manager, more like crying to the manager because she has lost her wallet. She doesn't know where it could have gotten to.
Before you and cousin salito got to the store you were going to have to buy the beer because he was broke. However, when it came time to check out he bought a bottle of tequila.
Before cousin salito came to stay with you his ex-girlfriend called and told you that he had been ripping off old people, stealing their money with some sort of phone scam and that she thought he had even stolen a purse or two and so did the cops.
On the way home you see cousin salito throw out a purse that looks just like the one the little old lady had in the grocery store. He was trying to be sneaky but you saw it plain and simple. You know he ripped off the nice little old lady, there is no doubt in your mind he did it. He's your friend though, don't forget that.
The cops come knocking on your door to ask if you know anything about the missing purse. You say you don't. He's your friend.
Somehow the little old lady, the nice one from the market, finds out that you live in the neighborhood and she stops by to ask if you know anything about her missing money. It's all she has until the 2nd of next month. She's on Social Security.
Now what?
It may be a little out of context but harboring a criminal is harboring a criminal.
salito is not some dumb kid that stole some candy. He's a REPEAT offender.
gubitz is covering for him.
Wes Pollock
Your cousin salito comes to visit you from New York. He has been in trouble many times for lying and deception. He's been caught stealing more than two or three times as well. But he's your friend.
Now, while you're at the grocery with cousin salito, picking up dinner fixin's, a nice little old lady comes by with her purse open and he wallet in plain sight. Cousin salito remarked that it was easliy seen.
Not too long after his comment you see the poor little old lady talking to the manager, more like crying to the manager because she has lost her wallet. She doesn't know where it could have gotten to.
Before you and cousin salito got to the store you were going to have to buy the beer because he was broke. However, when it came time to check out he bought a bottle of tequila.
Before cousin salito came to stay with you his ex-girlfriend called and told you that he had been ripping off old people, stealing their money with some sort of phone scam and that she thought he had even stolen a purse or two and so did the cops.
On the way home you see cousin salito throw out a purse that looks just like the one the little old lady had in the grocery store. He was trying to be sneaky but you saw it plain and simple. You know he ripped off the nice little old lady, there is no doubt in your mind he did it. He's your friend though, don't forget that.
The cops come knocking on your door to ask if you know anything about the missing purse. You say you don't. He's your friend.
Somehow the little old lady, the nice one from the market, finds out that you live in the neighborhood and she stops by to ask if you know anything about her missing money. It's all she has until the 2nd of next month. She's on Social Security.
Now what?
It may be a little out of context but harboring a criminal is harboring a criminal.
salito is not some dumb kid that stole some candy. He's a REPEAT offender.
gubitz is covering for him.
Wes Pollock
reptilechick
New member
Neil
How is Neil covering for him?? From what I can tell, Neil is HELPING him paying off his debts! I would tell the friend to make it right, and if that friend didn't, I would make it right for him/her. I would do everything in my power to make it right...One way or another. I think your ANALOGY is comparing apples to oranges..
Tricia Smith
How is Neil covering for him?? From what I can tell, Neil is HELPING him paying off his debts! I would tell the friend to make it right, and if that friend didn't, I would make it right for him/her. I would do everything in my power to make it right...One way or another. I think your ANALOGY is comparing apples to oranges..
Tricia Smith
Neil Gubitz
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Wes.... do you know what sexual position produces the most moronic children on the face of this Earth??
Ask your mother!!
Had Sal done what you said.... I'd have turned him in in a heartbeat!.... Try not to be such an idiot all your life, huh??
Neil
Ask your mother!!
Had Sal done what you said.... I'd have turned him in in a heartbeat!.... Try not to be such an idiot all your life, huh??
Neil
JungleHabitats
New member
ok ...
So he didnt steal some nice lil old ladies money in which you would turn him in a minute ....
but since he stole money from MANY people which some as of this afternoon had not been paid back ( they posted it and so did someone else on a person for a bad check)
So since that is a "faceless crime" its ok to help him out?????
Wether its reaching in a purse to steal it .... yaking it off your dresser to get it or TAKE it over the internet where he doesnt see them face to face that makes it all ok?
Where is Sal? i thought he said he was gonna answer all the questions people were going to ask?
So he didnt steal some nice lil old ladies money in which you would turn him in a minute ....
but since he stole money from MANY people which some as of this afternoon had not been paid back ( they posted it and so did someone else on a person for a bad check)
So since that is a "faceless crime" its ok to help him out?????
Wether its reaching in a purse to steal it .... yaking it off your dresser to get it or TAKE it over the internet where he doesnt see them face to face that makes it all ok?
Where is Sal? i thought he said he was gonna answer all the questions people were going to ask?
gila7150
New member
Does that mean you're going to turn him in for stealing $600 from Shannon and $125 from Mike?
At what point do his crimes become serious enough?
reptilechick
New member
OMG
OK~
Well, I just got off the phone with Neil a little while ago, and ya know what??? I think he is a stand up guy...Yes, I am new to this site, but I cannot stand by and watch everyone jump on a bandwagon bashing someone who did something, in my opinion, is admirable. I would proud to be able one day to call Neil my friend. From what I see, Ya all need to bash other's people reputations and actions, because ya all have some skeletons in your closets!!!!
Tricia Smith
OK~
Well, I just got off the phone with Neil a little while ago, and ya know what??? I think he is a stand up guy...Yes, I am new to this site, but I cannot stand by and watch everyone jump on a bandwagon bashing someone who did something, in my opinion, is admirable. I would proud to be able one day to call Neil my friend. From what I see, Ya all need to bash other's people reputations and actions, because ya all have some skeletons in your closets!!!!
Tricia Smith
kimtall
New member
Ticia,
You are comparing apples and oranges, by not understanding Wes's comparision, which is a great one I must say.
Neil is aiding and abedding a known criminal period. How someone cannot see this is beyond me. I am all about helping my friends and do so in anyway I can. My friends would never commit a crime and I would not have to cover for them, so I would never be put in Neils situation. i would never be friends with someone like Sal in the first place. That is the difference between me and Neil and anyone else like him. A criminal would not be my friend period. There is no excuse for breaking the law.
You are comparing apples and oranges, by not understanding Wes's comparision, which is a great one I must say.
Neil is aiding and abedding a known criminal period. How someone cannot see this is beyond me. I am all about helping my friends and do so in anyway I can. My friends would never commit a crime and I would not have to cover for them, so I would never be put in Neils situation. i would never be friends with someone like Sal in the first place. That is the difference between me and Neil and anyone else like him. A criminal would not be my friend period. There is no excuse for breaking the law.
Brian Oakley
New member
Tricia,
I agree, as I said on this very thread about what Neil did was a nice thing for a friend.
Like you said, you are NEW to this site. How many searches have you done on Neil and or his companies? JUST WONDERING. I have no first hand info on anyting Neil does when it comes to reptiles and I agree, every thread that has his name in it turns into a circus.
I have not bought anything from Neil before, but we have had some talks via email and things are fine.
Just find it tough for someone to come on here as a "new" person and tell everyone they do not know what they are talking about. I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING if someone came on here as a 'new' person and said the same to Neil OR anyone else. Just a heavy statement/s you made for someone who obviously does nnot know the history, good or bad.
In closing, welcome aboard! Hope you enjoy the circus!
I agree, as I said on this very thread about what Neil did was a nice thing for a friend.
Like you said, you are NEW to this site. How many searches have you done on Neil and or his companies? JUST WONDERING. I have no first hand info on anyting Neil does when it comes to reptiles and I agree, every thread that has his name in it turns into a circus.
I have not bought anything from Neil before, but we have had some talks via email and things are fine.
Just find it tough for someone to come on here as a "new" person and tell everyone they do not know what they are talking about. I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING if someone came on here as a 'new' person and said the same to Neil OR anyone else. Just a heavy statement/s you made for someone who obviously does nnot know the history, good or bad.
In closing, welcome aboard! Hope you enjoy the circus!
W.Wedeking
Cult Sex Symbol
When a person does something wrong, the only person who is responsible for that action is the person who committed it. The only person who can "make it right" is the person who committed the offence in the first place.
Anyone who decides to take that responsibilty away from the offending person is a "co-dependent" and is doing the offending party an extreeme injustice by not allowing them to make ammends. Infact, they are keeping that person from learning and growing from their mistakes and "enabling" them to continue the negative path they have chosen. The "co-dependent" does this "enabling" out of the "goodness of their heart" so that they may feel superior and play the martyr when the offender "takes advantage" of them.
Sal left the state he was living in to avoid taking responsibility for his actions. It seems from all the threads we have seen, Sal is a master at manipulating other people into being responsible for him so that he does not have to feel the pain of the consequences for what he has done.
Neils track record isn't any better.
There is a saying: The easiest person to con, is a conman.
If Neil was such a good friend, he would not lie or cover-up for Sal. He would tell Sal to go back and face the music.
Anyone who decides to take that responsibilty away from the offending person is a "co-dependent" and is doing the offending party an extreeme injustice by not allowing them to make ammends. Infact, they are keeping that person from learning and growing from their mistakes and "enabling" them to continue the negative path they have chosen. The "co-dependent" does this "enabling" out of the "goodness of their heart" so that they may feel superior and play the martyr when the offender "takes advantage" of them.
Sal left the state he was living in to avoid taking responsibility for his actions. It seems from all the threads we have seen, Sal is a master at manipulating other people into being responsible for him so that he does not have to feel the pain of the consequences for what he has done.
Neils track record isn't any better.
There is a saying: The easiest person to con, is a conman.
If Neil was such a good friend, he would not lie or cover-up for Sal. He would tell Sal to go back and face the music.
Brian Oakley
New member
OOOOOOPS!
Sorry for mispelling your name, TICIA.
I could have sworn I saw an 'r' in there. lol
Sorry for mispelling your name, TICIA.
I could have sworn I saw an 'r' in there. lol
kimtall
New member
Tricia,
since you are "new" to this site, have you read all of the posts about Neil. Have you read about all of the lies he has told and the bad deals he has done???? Like I said before birds of a feather flok together and if you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas. Associating yourself with Neil would be suicide if you plan to sell animals now or in the future.
since you are "new" to this site, have you read all of the posts about Neil. Have you read about all of the lies he has told and the bad deals he has done???? Like I said before birds of a feather flok together and if you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas. Associating yourself with Neil would be suicide if you plan to sell animals now or in the future.
Neil Gubitz
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Tricia.... it's ok.... let them have their fun.... I'm very used to it.... but now you see why only about 50 out of the 6000+ people will ever post on here.... understandably, nobody wants to go through this.... me??.... I couldn't care less what they say about me....
It's like if they tell me that when they die, they're going to dig their way out of their graves and haunt me for the rest of my life.... well, I'm going to bury them face down.... let em dig.... lol
Neil
It's like if they tell me that when they die, they're going to dig their way out of their graves and haunt me for the rest of my life.... well, I'm going to bury them face down.... let em dig.... lol
Neil
JungleHabitats
New member
hmmm
I am new to this site, but I cannot stand by and watch everyone jump on a bandwagon bashing someone who did something, in my opinion, is admirable
Ok first welcome to the BOI ... Now id like to ask you ti find Neil Gubits in the search function and read the 4000 or so posts on him and his actions over time before you cast doubts and WHY he is being rode like a cheap carnical ride
Then look up Sal Toremberane (sp) / Upstate Exotics / Enclosures By Design .... grab coffee and doughnuts read themALL there are alot of reading there . then when you see how long Sal has been stealing peoples $$ and the excuses he has gave out and how many times he has done it then you will see why we have the least amount of respect for him , then read the OLD BOI and see how Neil use to react and harp on people that would hide out ... or steal sell bad animals ones that die , ones that dont eat etc etc etc so on & so on THEN come back and gice us your opinion while its very welcome please dont assume we are raggin him because its friday or something Neil has slipped out of sheeps clothing more then once he could probably sell the Devil Ice water in hell , he could probably make the best salesman award every day of the week he could sweet talk the panties off mother teresa and give her a child the oldfashioned way..
Now Neil will tell you i use to be "friends with him long ago i still say im not a hater , but i do hate to see someone take advatage of a situation to make him self appear better in the eyes of peers ... and yes that is what this is ... he has said in this thread that EVERYONE that was duped was taking care of and yet atleast 2 so far have came forward that have NOTBEEN taken care of ... so either Neil lied or Sal (NEILS FRIEND) lied to him on who wasnt fixed or he just cant remember because he has screwed SO MANY people ... did you notice Sal mentioned THOUSANDS of dollars to help him pay back people ???? why would someone when he was suppose to have "changed last year have thousands of dollars to be paid out ... why di he have to pay that out when he should have not stole it to start with ...
Welcome once again to the BOI
I am new to this site, but I cannot stand by and watch everyone jump on a bandwagon bashing someone who did something, in my opinion, is admirable
Ok first welcome to the BOI ... Now id like to ask you ti find Neil Gubits in the search function and read the 4000 or so posts on him and his actions over time before you cast doubts and WHY he is being rode like a cheap carnical ride
Then look up Sal Toremberane (sp) / Upstate Exotics / Enclosures By Design .... grab coffee and doughnuts read themALL there are alot of reading there . then when you see how long Sal has been stealing peoples $$ and the excuses he has gave out and how many times he has done it then you will see why we have the least amount of respect for him , then read the OLD BOI and see how Neil use to react and harp on people that would hide out ... or steal sell bad animals ones that die , ones that dont eat etc etc etc so on & so on THEN come back and gice us your opinion while its very welcome please dont assume we are raggin him because its friday or something Neil has slipped out of sheeps clothing more then once he could probably sell the Devil Ice water in hell , he could probably make the best salesman award every day of the week he could sweet talk the panties off mother teresa and give her a child the oldfashioned way..
Now Neil will tell you i use to be "friends with him long ago i still say im not a hater , but i do hate to see someone take advatage of a situation to make him self appear better in the eyes of peers ... and yes that is what this is ... he has said in this thread that EVERYONE that was duped was taking care of and yet atleast 2 so far have came forward that have NOTBEEN taken care of ... so either Neil lied or Sal (NEILS FRIEND) lied to him on who wasnt fixed or he just cant remember because he has screwed SO MANY people ... did you notice Sal mentioned THOUSANDS of dollars to help him pay back people ???? why would someone when he was suppose to have "changed last year have thousands of dollars to be paid out ... why di he have to pay that out when he should have not stole it to start with ...
Welcome once again to the BOI
reptilechick
New member
Good or bad
Ok~
There is an R in ther Brian..LOL...OK, here goes, I have done a search on Neil, and yes, Brian you are right, it does turn in to a circus!! And in my opinion that is wrong...Ok, I will concede that Sal did do some shady stuff, and that's what started this thread, but from what I have seen, Neil is trying to help Sal to make it right! Doesn't he deserve some credit??
Tricia Smith
Ok~
There is an R in ther Brian..LOL...OK, here goes, I have done a search on Neil, and yes, Brian you are right, it does turn in to a circus!! And in my opinion that is wrong...Ok, I will concede that Sal did do some shady stuff, and that's what started this thread, but from what I have seen, Neil is trying to help Sal to make it right! Doesn't he deserve some credit??
Tricia Smith
W.Wedeking
Cult Sex Symbol
No, Neil doesn't deserve any credit. If he truly wanted to "help" Sal, he would tell Sal to go back and face the music. He would allow Sal to feel the consequences of his actions so Sal would learn not to do it again.
Instead, Neil is gaining attention of people like you who now see him as a martyr when infact he has ulterior motives and is just as bad at conning people as Sal.
Instead, Neil is gaining attention of people like you who now see him as a martyr when infact he has ulterior motives and is just as bad at conning people as Sal.
JungleHabitats
New member
Tricia ...
We have stated that what neil did was good hearted ... BUT like wendy said it doesnt do much for sal as he will go back and do it again its what he knows to do ...
Now check this out ... You have a friend that robs a bank... that friend leaves that state and calls you tell you hes coming to florida and you KNOW he has robbed a bank and more then one bank .So now your friend tell you to NOT SAY A WORD that hes moving there so no one can find him ..... ok well your friend then opens up a buisness under a new name , doesnt have legal permits to do so and is selling the animals against FLA law .... are ya following this ... ok good it gets deeper ... well then you decide to help out yor friend but by hiding his location from the police etc you are aiding & abetting a criminal plain n simple so then you friend decides to make a post in a pressured time by you that hes going to do great wonders etc etc blah blah ... well then you tell eveyone that you personally paid off ALL his debt except one ( the ball python guy ) then all of the sudden people are coming forwards that still havent been paid back from being duped by your friend that has said he took the incentive to fix all the wrong ... ( still with me here ) so then how do you look by standing up for a friend that will lie to you about what he owes in hope that it makes him look better and stroke your ego all at once ....
We have stated that what neil did was good hearted ... BUT like wendy said it doesnt do much for sal as he will go back and do it again its what he knows to do ...
Now check this out ... You have a friend that robs a bank... that friend leaves that state and calls you tell you hes coming to florida and you KNOW he has robbed a bank and more then one bank .So now your friend tell you to NOT SAY A WORD that hes moving there so no one can find him ..... ok well your friend then opens up a buisness under a new name , doesnt have legal permits to do so and is selling the animals against FLA law .... are ya following this ... ok good it gets deeper ... well then you decide to help out yor friend but by hiding his location from the police etc you are aiding & abetting a criminal plain n simple so then you friend decides to make a post in a pressured time by you that hes going to do great wonders etc etc blah blah ... well then you tell eveyone that you personally paid off ALL his debt except one ( the ball python guy ) then all of the sudden people are coming forwards that still havent been paid back from being duped by your friend that has said he took the incentive to fix all the wrong ... ( still with me here ) so then how do you look by standing up for a friend that will lie to you about what he owes in hope that it makes him look better and stroke your ego all at once ....
reptilechick
New member
Naive
So now I guess I am naive for beliveing that Neil is HELPING a friend out of a sticky situation?? And if I associate myself with Neil I will never be able to sell reptiles?? Well, ya know what?? I would rather associate myself Neil than people that can jump on a bandwagon and be a CLONE because its FRIDAY!!!
Tricia Smith
So now I guess I am naive for beliveing that Neil is HELPING a friend out of a sticky situation?? And if I associate myself with Neil I will never be able to sell reptiles?? Well, ya know what?? I would rather associate myself Neil than people that can jump on a bandwagon and be a CLONE because its FRIDAY!!!
Tricia Smith
Brian Oakley
New member
He has been given credit, I for one alongwith others, said that what he did for Sal was nice and even better that he returned the money.
I choose to stay out of MANY threads involving Neil, as he knows of this, ut I do throw in thoughts here and there as I FEEL I am a pretty level headed person.
I think the argument people have, at laest in this thread, is that Neil knows how to get ahold of Sal, but will not put anyone in touch with him, either here on this forum OR in private email.
Wes did make a good point and I would have to agree REGARDLESS of who it was directed at. If Sal has done wrong and Neil has agreed to this, but Sal has NOT payed those back that LEGALLY deserve such, that Neil is harboring a crook. That is wrong.
Has Neil had good deals? Yes, I have seen those posts as well. Has he had some problems? Yes, I have seen those posts also.
MY OPINION is that there is no consistancy in Neil's dealings with people.
I posted this very thought on a thread that was not related to Neil, and I will close with it.
How hard is it to do business honestly and professionally? Why do people sell one thing and ship another? Why do people collect money and not ship anything? It is something that will forever blow my mind.
By the way, the above 4 lines were general comments, not just at Neil.
I choose to stay out of MANY threads involving Neil, as he knows of this, ut I do throw in thoughts here and there as I FEEL I am a pretty level headed person.
I think the argument people have, at laest in this thread, is that Neil knows how to get ahold of Sal, but will not put anyone in touch with him, either here on this forum OR in private email.
Wes did make a good point and I would have to agree REGARDLESS of who it was directed at. If Sal has done wrong and Neil has agreed to this, but Sal has NOT payed those back that LEGALLY deserve such, that Neil is harboring a crook. That is wrong.
Has Neil had good deals? Yes, I have seen those posts as well. Has he had some problems? Yes, I have seen those posts also.
MY OPINION is that there is no consistancy in Neil's dealings with people.
I posted this very thought on a thread that was not related to Neil, and I will close with it.
How hard is it to do business honestly and professionally? Why do people sell one thing and ship another? Why do people collect money and not ship anything? It is something that will forever blow my mind.
By the way, the above 4 lines were general comments, not just at Neil.