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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

what is wrong with ice berg lettace?

There isn't exactly anything wrong with Iceberg lettuce far from it's lack of nutritional value.
 
Nothing is wrong with Ice burg lettuce... it's just pointless. For reptiles it tends to be too watery and leads to runny stools, and it basically has no nutritional value. It would be like if you ate wet cardboard... it does nothing for you.
 
Well, it's because iceberg lettuce is basically only cellulose and water. It has nothing to offer nutritionally.

Now, if you want to facilitate bowel movements and hydration, a little iceberg included in the salad will do that. But if you want to provide some actual nutrition stick to DARK LEAFY greens. Top on the list should be Collards, Mustard greens, Dandelion greens, alfalfa leaves, escarole, water cress, small amounts of many leafy flavoring herbs like cilantro and basil, edible flowers, green beans and peas. Many common garden and lawn "weeds" have a great deal of nutrition to offer like chickweed, goosefoot, curly/sour dock. Before you can harvest them for use you MUST be certain that they are free of herbicide, pesticide and petroleum contaminates. The best part of most other lettuces are the dark green outer leaves that usually get thrown away. Avoid spinach, parsley, chard, cabbage, kale.
 
When looking at vegetables for reptiles like iguanas, high calcium is needed. Iceberg letuce does not provide that. I have seen Igs fed just iceberg develop MBD, there are x-rays on the internet of Igs that have only eaten iceberg and those with the proper diet. The bone density of the iceberf fed Igs was so light that their bones barely showed up on the x-ray. Those Igs given a proper diet, as MF stated, bones showed up on the x-ray very strong and solid.
 
I love ice berg. But never feed it to them more then once a week. Mostly for hydration. Or as filler in larger meals. You should always supplement accordingly.
 
Why would you want to use "filler" when they could be filling up with things that are GOOD for them?
 
The water and fiber is way good for them. Im talking redfooted torts. Not iggys or beardies. I dont know if it is good for them in any amount. Its pretty much a seasonal thing from the local gardens. I also feed them alot of bannana tree stalks and leaves. for the same reason.
 
I've only fed it to them for a week when i first got them. I coud'nt get out to the store, i was very busy. So when someone told me iceberg lettuce was bad for reptiles i posted this thread 'cause i did'nt no if my lizards would get sick or not.
 
If you're too busy to buy the proper food for your animals, you probably shouldn't have them, IMO. Pets of ANY kind are a responsibility, and should only by kept if you are able to do so properly.
 
That's a big myth that ice burg is "un"healthy. If it is fed exclusively over long periods of time w/ out supplements it could cause heath problems.
 
Vince

Vince said:
That's a big myth that ice burg is "un"healthy. If it is fed exclusively over long periods of time w/ out supplements it could cause heath problems.
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In and of itself, iceberg lettuce is not "unhealthy". I agree with you on this. Still, no single plant can be relied upon as an exclusive diet staple. Even those at the top of the reccomended list.

However, it is not a myth that no amount of supplementation can ever make nutritionally inadequate foodstuffs wholesome and complete. This is particularly true when discussing food plants.

Within plants there are hundreds, if not thousands of different phytochemical nutrients. Even at the level of science we have today, we can't even say how many or even how most of them work. Thus far only a tiny portion of these nutrients have been isolated and manufactured into supplements. One thing that nutrition science has figured out is that a great many of these phytochemical nutrients are only effective when present in tandem with certain others. Thus producing isolated supplement agents is pointless.
 
Iceberg vs. Collard Greens

Here are a couple links to compare the nutritional value of collard greens vs. iceberg. You can draw your own conclusions, but it would seem to support the "iceberg only every now and then" theory, as it has virtually no calcium or protein.

Iceberg Contents Collard Contents
 
Those links aren't working correctly, but you can search from that page for any food item you want
 
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