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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

USFWS Salamander Injurious Listing 01/13/2016

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From http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d7e8c81109173978c4240862c&id=dde2fe05f8:

Salamander Injurious Listing

As posted on our Facebook page this morning, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service will post tomorrow (1/13/15) in the federal register an interim rule listing 201 species (from 20 genera) of salamanders as injurious. This will prohibit importation and interstate transportation. The interim rule will be effective 15 days after posting in the register.

"This action is necessary to protect the interests of wildlife and wildlife resources from the introduction, establishment, and spread of the chytrid fungus Batrachochytrium salamandrivorans [Bsal] into ecosystems of the United States." - FWS

This is an interim and not a final rule. There will be a 60 day comment period. USARK will post updates following the federal register posting.

See all species to be listed on pages 90-99 at the link below.

Read the pre-filing document at http://www.usark.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Salamander-Listing-Injurious.pdf.

More information at http://www.fws.gov/injuriouswildlife/salamanders.html.

View the USARK newsletter from December 2014 regarding Bsal at http://www.us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d7e8c81109173978c4240862c&id=2a51d02304.

Donate to the USARK Legal Defense Fund

Information for making donations online and via check/money order can be found at www.usark.org/reptile-defense-fund-2/. You can make one-time, weekly, monthly or annual donations. You can also include a message that will be posted on the Legal Defense Fund Donor Wall at http://www.usark.org/usark-announcement/reptile-defense-donor-wall/ for all to see. You can even choose to make your donation or donation amount anonymous. Thanks for your support as we battle FWS to restore the freedoms of the Reptile Nation.
 
An import ban is a good measure. It's a pity it took a disease for the USFWS to bother to stop the import of wild caught animals. However, the inter-state trade in these animals by hobbyists who captive breed them will be devastated by this. What is USARK going to do about it?! First they stop inter-state trade in salamanders. Then they may decide that the latest Ranavirus strain means they will ban inter-state trade in frogs. Then it's on to snakes and lizards. The inter-state trade ban needs to be fought or more bans will follow that you _do_ care about. Don't let this precedent stand.

Remember that no one has ever had direct evidence of inter-state captive trade introducing Chytrid fungus, but researchers have carried Chytrid to populations of endangered amphibians and wiped them out. If Chytrid/B.d. Wasn't proven to be spread by hobbyists, it seems unlikely that the less robust pathogen B. sal. will be spread by them either. For more information on this please drop by Caudata.org.

USARK please do your job, before it's too late.
 
The Interstate Commerce issues is being addressed through USARK's constrictor lawsuit. One of the major issues has to do with whether FWS has the right to block that trade under the Lacey Act, as we see from USARK's latest filings. That ruling (if USARK wins) would apply across the board to Interstate Commerce.
 
Wyatt created this mess with his tactics of pretending to fight bills so they just get reintroduced....please do share his info...he has done more than enough damage to this industry.....

Oh and on a side note my last thread about how usark lawsuit and pushing fws on the issue of what fws have the authority to do,,would only cause fws to seek out more authority and look to bypass judicial processes even more...well I guess 201 species of salamanders getting added by a rule change that was made possible by catx that also was a rule change that bypassed the judicial process,,might be an indication that I was right again.
 
If usark wins their case on 18 usc 42 not giving fws the authority to ban interstate commerce fws will get an amendment to lacey act giving them the authority to do so.....would anybody like to bet against my prediction?
 
Regardless of the outcome, do your part and help fight this. The importation isn't crazy, but their thought that only 340 cb caudata are sold annually is insane. Click the green box on the right side of the page the link I'm posting brings up. Comment. Show them that the herp industry isn't going to bow out. Show them that the sales of caudata on that list are far higher than they think. If it isn't stopped here, it'll push to frogs, then they'll target fish and reptiles. You can mark those words. Also, I don't believe it's that simple to redraft something like the lacey act to better FWS use of it. But again, we can and should fight that tooth and nail. Just like this.
https://www.federalregister.gov/art...ders-due-to-risk-of-salamander-chytrid-fungus
 
People need to remember this listing isn't like the python listing based on fake threat of being invasive.....I'm not saying that the salamander listing was necessary but what has the reptile industry offered up in way scientific information to prove the listing isn't needed...the reptile industry I'd going to have to work with fws in the future if it hopes to slow down all these listing
 
I definitely agree that the USFWS does not have a leg to stand on. They do not have a legal basis of it so even if they tried to enforce it, they would not have an argument in court. What they are trying to do basically is bully people into not getting, or giving up their pets. This is a lot like the situation with mini potbelly pigs. Many people are bullied by their city government, etc. to try to get them them to give up their pet pig. Almost every time someone went to court over it, the case was dismissed because it is not illegal. This seems to be the case with the salamander ban. The Lacey Act states "any shipment between the continental United States, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, or any possession of the United States of [an injurious species] is hereby prohibited." According to this, all the states that make up the continental US are grouped together and counted as one, and because of that, interstate transport of states within the continental US is perfectly legal. Transport between any of the states in the continental US and for example, Hawaii, would be illegal though because Hawaii is not a part of the continental US.
 
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