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Posted 12/19/2024.
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I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?
So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.
But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.
Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.
I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.
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Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.
And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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Responding to email notices you receive.
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In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.
Bad Guy Sellers Beware of John Franco!
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There are several options:
"unsexed"
"unknown sex"
"0.0.1"
Also I'm not into geckos but based on other comments made by those who are, wouldn't a chahoua gecko of that age and size be of indeterminate sex anyway, and buyers should know that?
MrTPlush
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You are assuming the buyer is some expert on geckos and more specifically this species of gecko. We were all beginners at one point. Maybe the buyer thought all geckos were different when it comes to telling the sex. In my opinion you have to treat everyone like they just impulse wanted that animal because they were reading about it one day. Assume that they are always beginners with little knowledge.
odduc748
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I have been looking for female chahoua, for a long time and have posted several ads requesting such. I browse the classifieds, every day, searching.
I remember seeing this original ad and passing on the animal for several reasons. The biggest of which was that it could not be confirmed female, given the age and weight.
I thought of sending the OP a PM to offer some friendly advice, but figured she had probably heard from others.
Anyway, it's probably best to simply return the money and move on.
I remember seeing this original ad and passing on the animal for several reasons. The biggest of which was that it could not be confirmed female, given the age and weight.
I thought of sending the OP a PM to offer some friendly advice, but figured she had probably heard from others.
Anyway, it's probably best to simply return the money and move on.
This seems pretty shady to me, I would just return the guy his money.
If I am not confident of the sex, I simply will not use the type of language used here which caused an incident like this to even be possible.
Craig Wyatt
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Mariah. Where did you go???
I have contacted John and let him know about this thread, maybe he will let us know if Mariah has done the right thing.
IMO, that is her only option that saves her rep.
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IMO, that is her only option that saves her rep.
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but I'm betting on Paypal for doing the right thing.
She has not returned his money.
I am attaching a screenshot of John's deposit.
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I am attaching a screenshot of John's deposit.
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She has it all posted on her FB page … her friends seem to be siding with her. I don't think she will be back here.
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That was a note added by the buyer if I'm not mistaken, so that really doesn't prove anything other than he may have read over the "poss" female, which I do agree she should have made it VERY CLEAR that it was a POSSIBLE female and not keep referring to it as of it was indeed guaranteed female.ugh. Please Note: one red based female chahoua. Yet she couldn't be 100% sure, what if it's a male? Could you imagine that conversation a few months from now.
MrTPlush
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She clearly saw this situation as an opportunity to make a quick $150 without even selling an animal.
The buyer should come make a BOI on her. She still has yet to even refund him his non deposit payment of $150. Supposedly he has only put in a claim for the deposit payment. The $150 for the non deposit should have already been returned because she has no right to that according to her mighty TOS. The other $150, for the deposit, SHOULD go back to him regardless. However that money is in Paypal's hands right now.
How the seller has handled this situation is absolutely horrible.
The buyer should come make a BOI on her. She still has yet to even refund him his non deposit payment of $150. Supposedly he has only put in a claim for the deposit payment. The $150 for the non deposit should have already been returned because she has no right to that according to her mighty TOS. The other $150, for the deposit, SHOULD go back to him regardless. However that money is in Paypal's hands right now.
How the seller has handled this situation is absolutely horrible.
cmanning317
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Yaaa another bad Facebook seller with a TOC policy as a loophole to keep people's money
Wow, well this turned into a seller to avoid thread I guess.
MrTPlush
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You know I totally understand a "non refundable" deposit to protect yourself from someone wasting your time. Like taking 3 months to pay it off, but then decide they don't want it. However, did this buyer try to waste her time? No and not only that but he didn't even take a week of this sellers time. Why take $150 from someone if they didn't really cost you that much?
It just shows the seller is greedy and doesn't care about her costumers.
Perhaps she is young and a bit inexperienced, or maybe just tired of getting her chain yanked by excited buyers that have a change of mind. Don't be so quick to judge.
For one - I do agree that with such a short period of time involved, she needs to refund the total amount. With Paypal having hijacked her account, she can't do so until they either release the funds back to her, or refund them to the purchaser.
My guess is she doesn't have the funds available to refund - not common when you expect a sale to stick, and don't expect a cancellation. Yeah, yeah, yeah - ideally we all have an extra account for payment plans and schedules - and not co-mingle funds, but in reality - who but the big breeders/wholesellers can afford to do so?
Here's my suggestion: agree to refund the entire payments made. Refund the second payment immediately if Paypal does not do so for you, and offer to refund the initial non-refundable deposit once the chachie sells to someone else. That way the buyer gets his lesson on reading the ads better and to think + ask Qs first before impulse buying, and the seller has most likely learned her lesson already. $300 bucks and one week's time is not worth burning a lot of bridges behind her. While the good feelings are already gone and both parties feel sour, doing the right thing by refunding the moneys paid, at least resolves the issue without too much hurt on both sides, even if he has to wait a bit longer than he wants to. Doing it this way allows her to schedule the second installment, when the chachie finally sells, without loosing face and knowing [and feeling] that she did the right thing in her own mind.
For one - I do agree that with such a short period of time involved, she needs to refund the total amount. With Paypal having hijacked her account, she can't do so until they either release the funds back to her, or refund them to the purchaser.
My guess is she doesn't have the funds available to refund - not common when you expect a sale to stick, and don't expect a cancellation. Yeah, yeah, yeah - ideally we all have an extra account for payment plans and schedules - and not co-mingle funds, but in reality - who but the big breeders/wholesellers can afford to do so?
Here's my suggestion: agree to refund the entire payments made. Refund the second payment immediately if Paypal does not do so for you, and offer to refund the initial non-refundable deposit once the chachie sells to someone else. That way the buyer gets his lesson on reading the ads better and to think + ask Qs first before impulse buying, and the seller has most likely learned her lesson already. $300 bucks and one week's time is not worth burning a lot of bridges behind her. While the good feelings are already gone and both parties feel sour, doing the right thing by refunding the moneys paid, at least resolves the issue without too much hurt on both sides, even if he has to wait a bit longer than he wants to. Doing it this way allows her to schedule the second installment, when the chachie finally sells, without loosing face and knowing [and feeling] that she did the right thing in her own mind.