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Questions regarding Hondurans

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I have a few questions regarding Honduran boas. I purchased a female last September from Primeval Beauty and am very pleased with her. I have been searching classifieds off and on for a male and now how some questions regarding the species.

1. I've spent some time at biogenitics.com (very informative) and I have a question for Mike. You list roatan boas on the locality list, but not Hondurans. Are these two one-in-the-same?
2. Are fire-belly Hondurans the same as Roatans?
3. In the tarantula keeping community, talk of hybrids is very frowned upon. I'm wanting to find a male that is the exact same as the female I have, yet am confused by the common names. Since these locality boas are all variants of bci, is breeding a Nicraguan to a Honduran considered taboo? Seems to me it would be, but I've not been around long enough to get a sense of how mixes are viewed.
4. Is species (or subspecies) identification of locality boas come down to trusting the seller? I see some visual differences, but do not trust that method of id. In other words, when I do find a male Honduran, I trust the seller's word (and reputation) that it is indeed a Honduran, not a Nicaraguan or some other locality boa.

Thanks for your help. Someday I really would like to find the right mate for my girl. John
 
1. I've spent some time at biogenitics.com (very informative) and I have a question for Mike. You list roatan boas on the locality list, but not Hondurans. Are these two one-in-the-same?
2. Are fire-belly Hondurans the same as Roatans?
3. In the tarantula keeping community, talk of hybrids is very frowned upon. I'm wanting to find a male that is the exact same as the female I have, yet am confused by the common names. Since these locality boas are all variants of bci, is breeding a Nicraguan to a Honduran considered taboo? Seems to me it would be, but I've not been around long enough to get a sense of how mixes are viewed.
4. Is species (or subspecies) identification of locality boas come down to trusting the seller? I see some visual differences, but do not trust that method of id. In other words, when I do find a male Honduran, I trust the seller's word (and reputation) that it is indeed a Honduran, not a Nicaraguan or some other locality boa.


#1 No, Roatans Island boas and the mainland Hondurans are different boas.
#2 Yes, the Roatans Island boas are the true fire-bellies.
#3 I would really not consider breeding a Nicraguan with a Honduran.
#4 You can really see the difference between a Honduran and a Nicaraguan but you can not see if it is pure or not so when it really comes down to it you really have to trust the seller. I would not really worry about getting a pure Nicaraguan but it might be hard to find a pure Honduran boa.

I hope this helps you.

Thanks, Josh
 
tarantulakeeper said:
1. I've spent some time at biogenitics.com (very informative) and I have a question for Mike. You list roatan boas on the locality list, but not Hondurans. Are these two one-in-the-same?
2. Are fire-belly Hondurans the same as Roatans?
3. In the tarantula keeping community, talk of hybrids is very frowned upon. I'm wanting to find a male that is the exact same as the female I have, yet am confused by the common names. Since these locality boas are all variants of bci, is breeding a Nicraguan to a Honduran considered taboo? Seems to me it would be, but I've not been around long enough to get a sense of how mixes are viewed.
4. Is species (or subspecies) identification of locality boas come down to trusting the seller? I see some visual differences, but do not trust that method of id. In other words, when I do find a male Honduran, I trust the seller's word (and reputation) that it is indeed a Honduran, not a Nicaraguan or some other locality boa.

Thanks for your help. Someday I really would like to find the right mate for my girl. John
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Josh covered it very well, let me just clarify a couple of points.

1. Just to clarify: boagenetics.com. No they are not the same, The locality list is one of the areas of the site that is still very much incomplete.

2. Fire Bellies are a term that was coined by Dennis Sargent for his line of Roatans. They exhibit very bright red/orange ventrals. Not all Roatans exhibit this to the same degree. In fact, not all of Dennis' animals exhibited this to the same degree.

3. Not a recommended pairing.

4. With all that has gone on with boas in just the last ten years, you are trusting reputation in almost any purchase. There are a lot of "mutts" out there. As fire as Roatans versus Hondurans, in many cases, they are difficult to distinguish. The mainland animals (Hondurans) tend to get a little larger and are usually a little less colorful, but this is not a steadfast rule. There are exceptions in both directions.

Thanks,
 
Thank you both, Josh and Mike. In your opinions, would a breeding of my Honduran female to a Roatan male produce 'mutts' or are they close enough to be considered the same for breeding purposes? If I read your post correctly, Mike, they are different and if I'm interested in staying within the species, I need to find a 'mainland' Honduran.


Or....it would be fine to breed to a Roatan male as long as the offspring are identified as coming from the two different parents.

John
 
It is always good to have the true identites of the parent snakes, that is good business. They are different, so breeding the two species would produce a "mutt", though they are closely looking snakes. I would love to find some from the island of Roatan, but so few have them and importing is rare from what I have learned. So yes you would need to find a mainland Honduran.

If you do come accross any Roatans please let me know. Until then I am sticking with my Hondurans.

This is very similar to the Suriname and Guyana Boas disscussion.
 
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