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Lol, aight guys. Been a while, but I just adopted another pair of balls. Both extremely sick. One of them emaciated as all hell. I'm so pissed at these people but anyways not the point.

Aight. One of them appears to be a ghost. But retains a lot of brown. But has some serious blushing. And has the Ghost head. Absolutely gorgeous snake. Second one I'm sure is a normal, but with odd white flecking on her back. Anyways. Mind you I only have had these guys for about 5 hours. So I know the one in the pic looks really underweight. They both have RI and in quarantine. But anywho guys. Let me know what yall think. Cat, if you'd this, you know I'd love to hear from you on this.

Oh and almost forgot. This one has what seems to be a really bad eye cap. It's cloudy and dented in. But no sign of shed. And other one is completely clear. I've never dealt with retained eye caps. If this is what it is.... how do you treat it? You can see it in two of the pics. Thanx alot yall.

PS.... people suck. If you own a animal of any kind and allow it to get to this condition you need to be drug out into the middle of the street and shot. I understand they get sick. But this animal is sad. And they lied to me and said they were getting over it and eating fine. BS!!!!
 

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i would first, bring them to a vet.

The dented eye cap means the humidity is low. Soak the animal for about 30 minutes in lukewarm water, and up the humidity to about 70% for a bit. it should return to normal soon enough.

Keep them warm and comfortable for the time being, and try to keep stress levels down.

Good luck!
 
Sorry Alicia, but you know this is one of my pet peeves.
Blanket statements about increasing or decreasing humidity, particularly in snakes with SUSPECTED RI, is not the way to go (I won't even go into the subject of whether it actually IS an RI, lol). Without knowing the temperatures and humidity in which the snake is being kept (or in this case, was being kept), as well as having some indication of the degree of symptoms, it is nothing more than guessing...and not even good (educated) guessing. The wrong response could just as easily cause more problems for the snake.
As for they eye - I can't tell from the picture whether it is a retained cap or not. IF it is, yes, increasing the humidity is one of the options. There are several ways to approach it, but unless the snake just shed, it isn't going to fall off by itself...even if you try all the various shed tricks. You will have to make a decision to keep the snake under good conditions til the next shed (not a bad option, if it is eating), or to remove it. Be advised - before you attempt to remove a retained eyecap, BE SURE THERE IS A RETAINED EYECAP. A cloudy eye - even a dented one - could indicate injury or infection. Digging, poking, manipulating in that instance would at best be ineffective (I don't think I need to detail the other possibilities). While removing a retained cap is not a big deal, it is not without risk to the snake...particularly if the remover hasn't had much experience. At this point, the eye is not the main concern (read: it is unlikely that the snake will die due to whatever is wrong with the eye).


**Alicia - I understand that you were addressing only the issue of the eyecap, and on that matter, the idea of increasing the humidity in response to the dented eyecap is correct. Even if it isn't a retained cap, it certainly isn't likely to cause further problems
 
I think I'd worry about treating the possible RI before I'd wory about the eyecap, if they were mine. The eyecap (if that's what it is, I really can't tell from the pics) may come off with the next shed if they are now kept under proper conditions. More stress from poking at their eyeballs is unnecessary at this point, lol.

The suspected RI is what needs immediate treatment.....what are their symptoms, and how are you treating them?

The one pictured doesn't look like a ghost to me....a very pretty girl with some awesome blushing though. When she does shed, the shed will be completely patternless if she were to be a ghost.

And yes....people that neglect their critters should be locked up and left in the same conditions they left their critters in.......or worse. Shooting is too quick. :)
 
Well thank you guys. I've dealt with RI before. The specifics of it I do not know of. IE.. the strain. I know how to treat for that one now. Had a couple rescues that had RI's that have been takign care. But I have never dealt with an eye cap before. Or even seen a cloudy eye like that. So I think I will do what I can till the vet sees it Tuesday

As far as the RI. It's definitely not suspected. I'm 100%. It's the worst I've seen so far. Bubbly mucous around mouth and nose. At one point last night it looked like one of them was drooling. Constant head elevation, the constant yawning and hacking. Rattling in throat and popping and wheezing. It's pretty bad. These people said they had been giving these snakes penicilin. Whether it was baytril or not or what type I dunno. But I don't think they were. They are in good hands as far as the RI goes. Don't want to sound cocky. I apologize if I do.

My concern was the eye. Thanx for the help guys.
 
Awwww........poor guys.

Yeah, that's definitely what needs to be taken care of first. The eyecap is but a minor thing at this point. Good luck, and let us know what the vet says, and how they progress for you.
 
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RI is nothing to trifle with...

Get R'dun, then deal with the ojos :)

It's just cosmetic at this point.
 
hhmoore said:
**Alicia - I understand that you were addressing only the issue of the eyecap, and on that matter, the idea of increasing the humidity in response to the dented eyecap is correct. Even if it isn't a retained cap, it certainly isn't likely to cause further problems
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LOL its fine harald! Thats mostly why i said get them to a vet with the very first words i wrote. because in the end, thats more than likely whats going to have to be done( and is from his reply to you guys). and then i dont have to type out a long paragraph about what needs to be done :D
 
Lol, I love you guys. Well I don't remember if I said but they have an appointment Tuesday at 10 AM. They're going where I used to work. So I know they will be getting good care at the vet.

But ya I knew that the RI was the major concern here. Just never dealt with eye probs with my snakes. Unlike SOME PEOPLE lol.... I do my best to make sure they have the proper conditions to shed, and basically everything else. I really have to throw out some kudos and thanx to the person who helped me out alot, when I first started, besides Ed, Cat has really helped me. Just had to throw that out, she's always been 100% supportive to me with education. Thanx Cat.

Anywho.... *sniff sniff* haha. Here's pics of the other guy.... notice his coloring? He's lacking his yellows and oranges. He's pretty much all black, grays and browns. Where the yellows should be, he's white, with the exception around his face which is like a cream. Tell me what you think on that one.

Also almost forgot the best news, they both ate today. The blushing one took a f/t small rat, the other showed interest in his meal but kinda turned up his nose, like as to say "Not thanx" lol. So I put a full grown live mouse in front of him to see if they had been feeding him live, and sure enough, bammmm!!! So, my spirits are high now. And they seem to be happier now that I've fed them. I'm speculating that they simply got bored with these poor guys, because they said they wanted to get away from balls. They have quite a few boas, a few burmese, 2 alligators, alot of venomous and finally to top it off a pet skunk. Sigh. People like this annoy me. They get these animals because they think they are cool (I mean they are) and do not have any REAL love and appreciation for these creatures. Alrighty, I need to stop ranting. Later.
 

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I agree with everybody else. I wouldn't worry about the eye until the Vet. An me personally I don't know if I would of feed? I mean with gunk coming out of their mouth and live can cause injuries. They just swallowed their gunk, yuck. If it was me I'd keep them nice and warm and at usual humidity but no more then that. I wouldn't want high humidity with gunk. I.e. Bacteria growth. Thats just me. Poor little Snakies. :( Also I don't know that they are emaciated. Thats a heavy word. Underweight for sure but I've seen worse at Pet Stores were the Snakes "neck" was nothing but crumples, wrinkles. Thats a good sign and then another would be spine protrusion. Just my two cents. Thanks
 
Your opinion is appreciated. I don't feed live. It was just a test. I don't know if you can see it but the blushing one does have the protruding spine. He doesn't have the crinkling in the neck skin.
 
I agree with the above concerns. Vet for RI, and I'd ignore the eye cap(possible eye cap) until you have him shed. With proper conditions the retained eye cap might shed right off without any concern, and if it doesn't you can decide on further courses of action. Until then, treating the RI is the primary concern, and how great is it that you happen to have experiance treating it! I bet these guys will be all better really fast.
My opinion is they are nice normals. Congrats on your new acquisitions!
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If they were mine, I would be sure to have the Vet check for Stomatitus/Mouth Rot and parasites.
 
HerpGuy said:
Cat has really helped me. Just had to throw that out, she's always been 100% supportive to me with education. Thanx Cat.
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Rock on, Cat is Good people! Isnt it awesome to have such great people there to help you out when theres a problem!? Its why i love this site.

Good luck with your animals, hopefully the RI's will be cured for you soon, and you can work on they eye problem next! Keep us updated ok!?
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Yes it is wonderful. And see I've always felt like the new kid on the block trying to hang with the cool ones, lol... with all the questions and all. But as they say, the only stupid question is the one not asked. But I definitely will keep you gusy up to date.
 
I didn't see that in the picture but Thanks for pointing it out. I wasn't trying to argue or be disrespectful. I'm no expert by any means. I've just hit the surface it feels like. I donno, I just thought if I was in that position what would I do, ya know? If it was me I'd do lots of stuff. I would try to clean out there mouth. Whats saline? I don't know why that came in mind? I'd try my darndest to wipe off drool and gunk with a limited amount of stress to the babies.

You should probably also soak them. I know from my Leo Rescues when their emaciated their probably dehydrated. All you need is a bucket with something like a jar in the middle for them to wrap around, lukewarm water and a little bit of Pedialyte put in there and then rinse the Snake when your done. If it was me and I had Baytril available I would use some to. I'd tell my Vet, I'm not ashamed. I'd make the appointment and say I had the Baytril and really insist on a dose before they went in. Good luck with these guys though. I hope everything goes well. :)
 
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Yes it is wonderful. And see I've always felt like the new kid on the block trying to hang with the cool ones, lol... with all the questions and all. But as they say, the only stupid question is the one not asked. But I definitely will keep you gusy up to date.
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I have respect for people who are willing to "feel uncool" (LOL) and ask the questions to make sure they are doing it right. A real willingness to learn is what leads you to being the one who DOES know the answers.

No one knows it all (though some may think they do, lol)....and I think we are all still learning every day.

Definitely do keep us posted on how they fare.
 
Oh I know you weren't trying to argue darlin. I understand.

On the soaking thing. My vet said it's not good to soak a boid with RI. He compared it too when you have a sick child with a fever. How if you put them in the bath. The water seems colder to them than it actually is. And it's chills them. And could possibly make it worse, and stress them out. I was told to simply provide humidity at about 60%. But keep them dry. Clean the cage constantly. Wipe them down with non-perfumed antiseptic wipes. Not their face so much as their body. But for the most part. Just let them be.

Now as far as the baytril goes. I can't remember if someone on here told me this before or not... but my vet said baytril is the last resort. Because baytril may not even work. And that if they can get over it on their own, then that is much better for them. To let their body naturally heal. That's what I did for the other cases I've dealt with in rescues. My first ball python, which by the way I got from them, also came with RI to me. That was last summer. I have no had a single episode since. Every case I've had to deal with, has been from someone who had them in improper conditions.

The other and last thing I did for "Hercules", my first ball.... he had alot of solid gunk built up in his jacobson organ. So the vet gave me a syringe (no needle of course) and he showed me how to do it, but I took the syringe and suck up that stuff from the roof of his mouth. It take a little bit of a steady hand, cuz he also explained you do not want to apply any suction to the snakes mouth or gums or flesh, cuz it could cause damage. But after I did that he always seemed so appreciative. Lol... I know it's silly, but really he did. But anywho, enough jabbering from me.

Oh and now I remember the other person who helped me out a lot too. Rick. Thanx Rick.



:D
 
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I didn't see that in the picture but Thanks for pointing it out. I wasn't trying to argue or be disrespectful. I'm no expert by any means. I've just hit the surface it feels like. I donno, I just thought if I was in that position what would I do, ya know? If it was me I'd do lots of stuff. I would try to clean out there mouth. Whats saline? I don't know why that came in mind? I'd try my darndest to wipe off drool and gunk with a limited amount of stress to the babies.

You should probably also soak them. I know from my Leo Rescues when their emaciated their probably dehydrated. All you need is a bucket with something like a jar in the middle for them to wrap around, lukewarm water and a little bit of Pedialyte put in there and then rinse the Snake when your done. If it was me and I had Baytril available I would use some to. I'd tell my Vet, I'm not ashamed. I'd make the appointment and say I had the Baytril and really insist on a dose before they went in. Good luck with these guys though. I hope everything goes well. :)
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Kristin, I know you're trying to help. But I really don't think you have enough experience at this point in keeping snakes. Just because something works for Leos doesn't mean its good advice for a ball python. Soaking a bp with an RI is not a good thing to do. Plus self medicating ball pythons for inexperienced people is really not a good recommendation. :thumbsup:
 
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