So I really hate to do this to what i thought Was a good friend but i have gotten know where and thought it's time to bring it to everyone's attention
I joined Fauna in June of 09, Shortly there after i had posted a "wanted" ad in the bearded dragons page looking for a double het male. I was PM'ed by Nichole stating she had one for sale. In the PM she gave me her phone number stating it was OK to call being it was somewhat late i want to say around 11pm. She said she had a DH male for sale and that he was for sale in the bearded dragon section of fauna, so i liked what i sall and the price was good so i made the paypal payment. I received the male has described and was very happy. Well at the time i did not have the right female for him so months went by till i had a female. Well the first female he was with was an accident and not who i wanted to breed him to but what can you do sometimes, the cross was a het hypo female to the DH she laid 24 eggs and only 20 hatched well in those 20 eggs that hatched and if my numbers are right Het Hypo X Double Het should give me 5% hypo's not 1 of the 20 hatched came out hypo not a big deal. I then confronted Nichole via AIM as this is how we have chatted weekly since the purchase.I will post the AIM messages at the bottom. Well then i crossed this same male to a Proven Green trans 100% hypo 3 months ago well that clutch hatched out this past week and out of 15 laid and 15 hatching not 1 trans,hypo or hypo trans. Once again i confronted Nichole via AIM and will post that convo also.
Since then i have sold the male as a "normal"
This is the first convo me confronting her about the first clutch
fordgalaxy500 is available 8:43 am
I am away from my computer right now. 23h and 1m ago
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:44 am
(8:44:30 AM): well if your not sure what to do maybe i could send him back to you
fordgalaxy500 8:45 am
(8:45:11 AM): your kidding right?
(8:45:23 AM): I sold him to you as he was sold to me
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:45 am
(8:45:47 AM): not so much i mean he did not prove out hypo
fordgalaxy500 8:45 am
(8:45:56 AM): not my problem
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:45 am
(8:45:58 AM): i'm not trying to be mean as your a good friend
(8:46:12 AM): but you said you proved him out hypo
fordgalaxy500 8:46 am
(8:46:17 AM): Well I am just telling you I am not taking him back or refunding anything you got him dirt cheap
(8:46:23 AM): I did so its most likely your females
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:46 am
(8:46:38 AM): well my female was from dragon boyz
fordgalaxy500 8:46 am
(8:46:47 AM): he sired ONE clutch for me out of a Het Hypo female I ha daround 6-7 Hypo babies
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:46 am
(8:46:49 AM): father was het mom was a hypo
fordgalaxy500 8:46 am
(8:46:53 AM): a back yard breeder
(8:47:09 AM): You have had him for way too long for me to do anything about it I am not trying to be abitch here
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:47 am
(8:47:34 AM): well i finally got around to breeding him but ok
fordgalaxy500 8:47 am
(8:47:37 AM): I never Guaranteed he would produce hypos for you I simply told you his genetics and what he did for me
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:48 am
(8:48:15 AM): well i have another clutch right to a trans hatching out in the weeks to come so we shall see what happens then
fordgalaxy500 8:48 am
(8:48:22 AM): If you dont like him sell him he is young and a good breeder
(8:49:24 AM): Hell I sold the BEST red male I ever saw because he was a mean bastard
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:50 am
(8:50:01 AM): i'm just not sure why i wouldn't get a hypo well atleast 1 from hypo to hypo
fordgalaxy500 8:50 am
(8:50:14 AM): I dont know
fordgalaxy500 8:50 am
(8:50:24 AM): but it is not fair you try to come at me because od it
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:50 am
(8:50:26 AM): i mean my % would be around 5 out of the 20 eggs that hatched right
(8:50:46 AM): i'm coming to you cause i bought him from you silly
fordgalaxy500 8:50 am
(8:50:55 AM): yeah wanting to send him back!
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:51 am
(8:51:20 AM): well what good is he to me now if he is not double het like you said
fordgalaxy500 8:51 am
(8:51:30 AM): your calling me a liar
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:51 am
(8:51:39 AM): i'm not trying to come off like an ass nicole
fordgalaxy500 8:51 am
(8:51:40 AM): he was sold to me as a DOUBLE HET
(8:51:45 AM): he produced HYPOS for ME
This is the 2nd convo from when the 2nd clutch hatched
fordgalaxy500 is available 7:58 am
CrAzYCooLPAUL 7:58 am
(7:58:42 AM): Just to let you know drago's trans has not proved out in this clutch
fordgalaxy500 8:05 am
(8:05:31 AM): ok?
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:05 am
(8:05:54 AM): yeah i honestly think he is not double het as you told me
fordgalaxy500 8:06 am
(8:06:20 AM): think what you want Paul
(8:06:29 AM): he was sold to you as he was sold to me
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:06 am
(8:06:39 AM): i have his clutch hatching X to a green trans 100% hypo all i'm getting is normals
(8:06:51 AM): you do the math
fordgalaxy500 8:07 am
(8:07:04 AM): why do you even bother me with this you dont own the dragon anymore
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:07 am
(8:07:18 AM): but its the point!!!!
fordgalaxy500 8:07 am
(8:07:23 AM): you want to believe DW's be my guest but my friend would NOT lie to me about where she got the dragon and what he is
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:07 am
(8:07:44 AM): well someone is lieing here
fordgalaxy500 8:08 am
(8:08:10 AM): she bought that male from DW she was told by RHEA it was out of her two Belgium Hypo Trans my friend paid $200 for him
(8:08:37 AM): if anyone lied to anyone it was Dragonz Whispers
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:08 am
(8:08:53 AM): you told me you got him straight from dragon whispers
fordgalaxy500 8:08 am
(8:08:57 AM): Drago produced Hypos for me so I wont doubt he is Dbl het as he was told to be to my friend
(8:09:01 AM): no I did not
(8:09:09 AM): I told you he was from Dragonz Whispers
(8:09:17 AM): and I got him from a very good friend
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:09 am
(8:09:50 AM): not so much but ok
fordgalaxy500 8:09 am
(8:09:56 AM): she bought him so he was unrelated to the Hypo Red female she had gotten from me
fordgalaxy500 8:12 am
(8:12:43 AM): so think what you want he was sold to you exactly how he was sold to me so I am at no fault what so ever f anyone is it is Dragonz Whispers my friend would NOT
I then contacted Dragon Whispers and this is there email
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Afternoon i had a quick question about 8 months ago i bought a male yellow double het from HG Dragons (Nichole) And from what she tells me she got it from you. Now i breed him and did no get any hypo's now i just wanted to make sure this was true and in fact he came from you thanks
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Hi Paul,
Trying to think back and I don't remember selling her a double het, but just incase, was it dble het just for hypo? Also would you happen to have a picture of him? In the past Nicole had bought a few of our lines like Amaya (daughter of Cloe x George), Vale (daughter of Jill x George), Lily (daughter of Albee x Neon), but I think any of the others she sold off, which were irreplaceable dragons, but that was her choice.
Any additional info would be helpful & if it was one of our dragons, she should of sent the cert of genetics along with the dragon, as that's what we asked for, so people wouldn't end up inbreeding.
Any other info maybe helpful. Hope she's not using us for her escape goat, doubt it, but you never know. Our name has been brought into issue's we know nothing about lately, but that's another long story.
Rhea
Rhea & Rich Englund
"Selection is the Key!"
www.dragonzwhispers.com
(716) 912-3375 Phone
(716) 337-4016 Fax
In a message dated 5/5/2010 2:58:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Afternoon i had a quick question about 8 months ago i bought a male yellow double het from HG Dragons (Nichole) And from what she tells me she got it from you. Now i breed him and did no get any hypo's now i just wanted to make sure this was true and in fact he came from you thanks
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Well on my site on the breeders page his name is drago. Now He was breed to a leather het hypo, it was an accident but if my calculations where correct het to het i should get 25% hypo. She laid 24 eggs and only 20 hatched I got 11 leathers and 9 normals witch none where hypo. I did not get any type of cert with him. Thanks for getting back with me so quickly
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On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Paul,
Trying to think back and I don't remember selling her a double het, but just incase, was it dble het just for hypo? Also would you happen to have a picture of him? In the past Nicole had bought a few of our lines like Amaya (daughter of Cloe x George), Vale (daughter of Jill x George), Lily (daughter of Albee x Neon), but I think any of the others she sold off, which were irreplaceable dragons, but that was her choice.
Any additional info would be helpful & if it was one of our dragons, she should of sent the cert of genetics along with the dragon, as that's what we asked for, so people wouldn't end up inbreeding.
Any other info maybe helpful. Hope she's not using us for her escape goat, doubt it, but you never know. Our name has been brought into issue's we know nothing about lately, but that's another long story.
Rhea
Rhea & Rich Englund
"Selection is the Key!"
www.dragonzwhispers.com
(716) 912-3375 Phone
(716) 337-4016 Fax
In a message dated 5/5/2010 2:58:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Afternoon i had a quick question about 8 months ago i bought a male yellow double het from HG Dragons (Nichole) And from what she tells me she got it from you. Now i breed him and did no get any hypo's now i just wanted to make sure this was true and in fact he came from you thanks
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Hi Paul,
After looking at your site, I have never seen this dragon before, or have sold anything to Nicole along that type of line. Sorry I couldn't be of any help, but I even went back on our records and found nothing along that line.
Sorry, and good luck on all your breeding projects!
Rhea
In a message dated 5/6/2010 10:55:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Well on my site on the breeders page his name is drago. Now He was breed to a leather het hypo, it was an accident but if my calculations where correct het to het i should get 25% hypo. She laid 24 eggs and only 20 hatched I got 11 leathers and 9 normals witch none where hypo. I did not get any type of cert with him. Thanks for getting back with me so quickly
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Hey Paul, I received the e-mail below from Nicole Norton this morning. She bought this dragon from a pet store we used to supply dragons to sometimes. Below is my reply to her, as now I remember going threw this once before. The store also deals with another breeder as well, & this male looks NOTHING like any of the Het hypo trans we got from this line in the first place. He also had some Leucistic cross at that time as well. Anyway's sorry I can't be of more help, & I will sit here and be scrutinized by Nicole for the next decade. LOL, but true.
Rhea
"He asked me and I told him the truth. This dragon is from ET's other breeder, not from us. I never had babies at that time he was produced. I told ET this repeatedly! The only Belgium hypo trans line I gave to them, and when I wanted the opportunity to purchase her back, he sold her from underneath me, so I have no idea what you are otherwise talking about. Sorry. I also have quite a few JUMBO hornworms if you can feed them out right away. I need to keep most the cups of chow for worms I have coming, but I hate to just toss all those hornworms. There has to be at least 20-30 of them.
Let me know, as I've had them in the frig for a few days now."
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: 5/11/2010 10:06:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: hey
Why would you tell Paul that male is not a Double Het from you? You know he is you sold him as a baby to ET he was from your Hypo Belgium Translucent's that is what you told them. I highly doubt ET would lie to me
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Thanks but she at first told me she got him from you then now i see she got him from somewhere else crazy i tell you just plain crazy. I do appreciate your help and getting back to me.
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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:24 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey Paul, I received the e-mail below from Nicole Norton this morning. She bought this dragon from a pet store we used to supply dragons to sometimes. Below is my reply to her, as now I remember going threw this once before. The store also deals with another breeder as well, & this male looks NOTHING like any of the Het hypo trans we got from this line in the first place. He also had some Leucistic cross at that time as well. Anyway's sorry I can't be of more help, & I will sit here and be scrutinized by Nicole for the next decade. LOL, but true.
Rhea
"He asked me and I told him the truth. This dragon is from ET's other breeder, not from us. I never had babies at that time he was produced. I told ET this repeatedly! The only Belgium hypo trans line I gave to them, and when I wanted the opportunity to purchase her back, he sold her from underneath me, so I have no idea what you are otherwise talking about. Sorry. I also have quite a few JUMBO hornworms if you can feed them out right away. I need to keep most the cups of chow for worms I have coming, but I hate to just toss all those hornworms. There has to be at least 20-30 of them.
Let me know, as I've had them in the frig for a few days now."
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: 5/11/2010 10:06:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: hey
Why would you tell Paul that male is not a Double Het from you? You know he is you sold him as a baby to ET he was from your Hypo Belgium Translucent's that is what you told them. I highly doubt ET would lie to me
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I joined Fauna in June of 09, Shortly there after i had posted a "wanted" ad in the bearded dragons page looking for a double het male. I was PM'ed by Nichole stating she had one for sale. In the PM she gave me her phone number stating it was OK to call being it was somewhat late i want to say around 11pm. She said she had a DH male for sale and that he was for sale in the bearded dragon section of fauna, so i liked what i sall and the price was good so i made the paypal payment. I received the male has described and was very happy. Well at the time i did not have the right female for him so months went by till i had a female. Well the first female he was with was an accident and not who i wanted to breed him to but what can you do sometimes, the cross was a het hypo female to the DH she laid 24 eggs and only 20 hatched well in those 20 eggs that hatched and if my numbers are right Het Hypo X Double Het should give me 5% hypo's not 1 of the 20 hatched came out hypo not a big deal. I then confronted Nichole via AIM as this is how we have chatted weekly since the purchase.I will post the AIM messages at the bottom. Well then i crossed this same male to a Proven Green trans 100% hypo 3 months ago well that clutch hatched out this past week and out of 15 laid and 15 hatching not 1 trans,hypo or hypo trans. Once again i confronted Nichole via AIM and will post that convo also.
Since then i have sold the male as a "normal"
This is the first convo me confronting her about the first clutch
fordgalaxy500 is available 8:43 am
I am away from my computer right now. 23h and 1m ago
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:44 am
(8:44:30 AM): well if your not sure what to do maybe i could send him back to you
fordgalaxy500 8:45 am
(8:45:11 AM): your kidding right?
(8:45:23 AM): I sold him to you as he was sold to me
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:45 am
(8:45:47 AM): not so much i mean he did not prove out hypo
fordgalaxy500 8:45 am
(8:45:56 AM): not my problem
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:45 am
(8:45:58 AM): i'm not trying to be mean as your a good friend
(8:46:12 AM): but you said you proved him out hypo
fordgalaxy500 8:46 am
(8:46:17 AM): Well I am just telling you I am not taking him back or refunding anything you got him dirt cheap
(8:46:23 AM): I did so its most likely your females
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:46 am
(8:46:38 AM): well my female was from dragon boyz
fordgalaxy500 8:46 am
(8:46:47 AM): he sired ONE clutch for me out of a Het Hypo female I ha daround 6-7 Hypo babies
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:46 am
(8:46:49 AM): father was het mom was a hypo
fordgalaxy500 8:46 am
(8:46:53 AM): a back yard breeder
(8:47:09 AM): You have had him for way too long for me to do anything about it I am not trying to be abitch here
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:47 am
(8:47:34 AM): well i finally got around to breeding him but ok
fordgalaxy500 8:47 am
(8:47:37 AM): I never Guaranteed he would produce hypos for you I simply told you his genetics and what he did for me
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:48 am
(8:48:15 AM): well i have another clutch right to a trans hatching out in the weeks to come so we shall see what happens then
fordgalaxy500 8:48 am
(8:48:22 AM): If you dont like him sell him he is young and a good breeder
(8:49:24 AM): Hell I sold the BEST red male I ever saw because he was a mean bastard
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:50 am
(8:50:01 AM): i'm just not sure why i wouldn't get a hypo well atleast 1 from hypo to hypo
fordgalaxy500 8:50 am
(8:50:14 AM): I dont know
fordgalaxy500 8:50 am
(8:50:24 AM): but it is not fair you try to come at me because od it
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:50 am
(8:50:26 AM): i mean my % would be around 5 out of the 20 eggs that hatched right
(8:50:46 AM): i'm coming to you cause i bought him from you silly
fordgalaxy500 8:50 am
(8:50:55 AM): yeah wanting to send him back!
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:51 am
(8:51:20 AM): well what good is he to me now if he is not double het like you said
fordgalaxy500 8:51 am
(8:51:30 AM): your calling me a liar
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:51 am
(8:51:39 AM): i'm not trying to come off like an ass nicole
fordgalaxy500 8:51 am
(8:51:40 AM): he was sold to me as a DOUBLE HET
(8:51:45 AM): he produced HYPOS for ME
This is the 2nd convo from when the 2nd clutch hatched
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CrAzYCooLPAUL 7:58 am
(7:58:42 AM): Just to let you know drago's trans has not proved out in this clutch
fordgalaxy500 8:05 am
(8:05:31 AM): ok?
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:05 am
(8:05:54 AM): yeah i honestly think he is not double het as you told me
fordgalaxy500 8:06 am
(8:06:20 AM): think what you want Paul
(8:06:29 AM): he was sold to you as he was sold to me
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:06 am
(8:06:39 AM): i have his clutch hatching X to a green trans 100% hypo all i'm getting is normals
(8:06:51 AM): you do the math
fordgalaxy500 8:07 am
(8:07:04 AM): why do you even bother me with this you dont own the dragon anymore
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:07 am
(8:07:18 AM): but its the point!!!!
fordgalaxy500 8:07 am
(8:07:23 AM): you want to believe DW's be my guest but my friend would NOT lie to me about where she got the dragon and what he is
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:07 am
(8:07:44 AM): well someone is lieing here
fordgalaxy500 8:08 am
(8:08:10 AM): she bought that male from DW she was told by RHEA it was out of her two Belgium Hypo Trans my friend paid $200 for him
(8:08:37 AM): if anyone lied to anyone it was Dragonz Whispers
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:08 am
(8:08:53 AM): you told me you got him straight from dragon whispers
fordgalaxy500 8:08 am
(8:08:57 AM): Drago produced Hypos for me so I wont doubt he is Dbl het as he was told to be to my friend
(8:09:01 AM): no I did not
(8:09:09 AM): I told you he was from Dragonz Whispers
(8:09:17 AM): and I got him from a very good friend
CrAzYCooLPAUL 8:09 am
(8:09:50 AM): not so much but ok
fordgalaxy500 8:09 am
(8:09:56 AM): she bought him so he was unrelated to the Hypo Red female she had gotten from me
fordgalaxy500 8:12 am
(8:12:43 AM): so think what you want he was sold to you exactly how he was sold to me so I am at no fault what so ever f anyone is it is Dragonz Whispers my friend would NOT
I then contacted Dragon Whispers and this is there email
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Afternoon i had a quick question about 8 months ago i bought a male yellow double het from HG Dragons (Nichole) And from what she tells me she got it from you. Now i breed him and did no get any hypo's now i just wanted to make sure this was true and in fact he came from you thanks
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Hi Paul,
Trying to think back and I don't remember selling her a double het, but just incase, was it dble het just for hypo? Also would you happen to have a picture of him? In the past Nicole had bought a few of our lines like Amaya (daughter of Cloe x George), Vale (daughter of Jill x George), Lily (daughter of Albee x Neon), but I think any of the others she sold off, which were irreplaceable dragons, but that was her choice.
Any additional info would be helpful & if it was one of our dragons, she should of sent the cert of genetics along with the dragon, as that's what we asked for, so people wouldn't end up inbreeding.
Any other info maybe helpful. Hope she's not using us for her escape goat, doubt it, but you never know. Our name has been brought into issue's we know nothing about lately, but that's another long story.
Rhea
Rhea & Rich Englund
"Selection is the Key!"
www.dragonzwhispers.com
(716) 912-3375 Phone
(716) 337-4016 Fax
In a message dated 5/5/2010 2:58:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Afternoon i had a quick question about 8 months ago i bought a male yellow double het from HG Dragons (Nichole) And from what she tells me she got it from you. Now i breed him and did no get any hypo's now i just wanted to make sure this was true and in fact he came from you thanks
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Well on my site on the breeders page his name is drago. Now He was breed to a leather het hypo, it was an accident but if my calculations where correct het to het i should get 25% hypo. She laid 24 eggs and only 20 hatched I got 11 leathers and 9 normals witch none where hypo. I did not get any type of cert with him. Thanks for getting back with me so quickly
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On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Paul,
Trying to think back and I don't remember selling her a double het, but just incase, was it dble het just for hypo? Also would you happen to have a picture of him? In the past Nicole had bought a few of our lines like Amaya (daughter of Cloe x George), Vale (daughter of Jill x George), Lily (daughter of Albee x Neon), but I think any of the others she sold off, which were irreplaceable dragons, but that was her choice.
Any additional info would be helpful & if it was one of our dragons, she should of sent the cert of genetics along with the dragon, as that's what we asked for, so people wouldn't end up inbreeding.
Any other info maybe helpful. Hope she's not using us for her escape goat, doubt it, but you never know. Our name has been brought into issue's we know nothing about lately, but that's another long story.
Rhea
Rhea & Rich Englund
"Selection is the Key!"
www.dragonzwhispers.com
(716) 912-3375 Phone
(716) 337-4016 Fax
In a message dated 5/5/2010 2:58:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Afternoon i had a quick question about 8 months ago i bought a male yellow double het from HG Dragons (Nichole) And from what she tells me she got it from you. Now i breed him and did no get any hypo's now i just wanted to make sure this was true and in fact he came from you thanks
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Hi Paul,
After looking at your site, I have never seen this dragon before, or have sold anything to Nicole along that type of line. Sorry I couldn't be of any help, but I even went back on our records and found nothing along that line.
Sorry, and good luck on all your breeding projects!
Rhea
In a message dated 5/6/2010 10:55:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Well on my site on the breeders page his name is drago. Now He was breed to a leather het hypo, it was an accident but if my calculations where correct het to het i should get 25% hypo. She laid 24 eggs and only 20 hatched I got 11 leathers and 9 normals witch none where hypo. I did not get any type of cert with him. Thanks for getting back with me so quickly
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Hey Paul, I received the e-mail below from Nicole Norton this morning. She bought this dragon from a pet store we used to supply dragons to sometimes. Below is my reply to her, as now I remember going threw this once before. The store also deals with another breeder as well, & this male looks NOTHING like any of the Het hypo trans we got from this line in the first place. He also had some Leucistic cross at that time as well. Anyway's sorry I can't be of more help, & I will sit here and be scrutinized by Nicole for the next decade. LOL, but true.
Rhea
"He asked me and I told him the truth. This dragon is from ET's other breeder, not from us. I never had babies at that time he was produced. I told ET this repeatedly! The only Belgium hypo trans line I gave to them, and when I wanted the opportunity to purchase her back, he sold her from underneath me, so I have no idea what you are otherwise talking about. Sorry. I also have quite a few JUMBO hornworms if you can feed them out right away. I need to keep most the cups of chow for worms I have coming, but I hate to just toss all those hornworms. There has to be at least 20-30 of them.
Let me know, as I've had them in the frig for a few days now."
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To: [email protected]
Sent: 5/11/2010 10:06:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: hey
Why would you tell Paul that male is not a Double Het from you? You know he is you sold him as a baby to ET he was from your Hypo Belgium Translucent's that is what you told them. I highly doubt ET would lie to me
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Thanks but she at first told me she got him from you then now i see she got him from somewhere else crazy i tell you just plain crazy. I do appreciate your help and getting back to me.
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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:24 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey Paul, I received the e-mail below from Nicole Norton this morning. She bought this dragon from a pet store we used to supply dragons to sometimes. Below is my reply to her, as now I remember going threw this once before. The store also deals with another breeder as well, & this male looks NOTHING like any of the Het hypo trans we got from this line in the first place. He also had some Leucistic cross at that time as well. Anyway's sorry I can't be of more help, & I will sit here and be scrutinized by Nicole for the next decade. LOL, but true.
Rhea
"He asked me and I told him the truth. This dragon is from ET's other breeder, not from us. I never had babies at that time he was produced. I told ET this repeatedly! The only Belgium hypo trans line I gave to them, and when I wanted the opportunity to purchase her back, he sold her from underneath me, so I have no idea what you are otherwise talking about. Sorry. I also have quite a few JUMBO hornworms if you can feed them out right away. I need to keep most the cups of chow for worms I have coming, but I hate to just toss all those hornworms. There has to be at least 20-30 of them.
Let me know, as I've had them in the frig for a few days now."
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: 5/11/2010 10:06:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: hey
Why would you tell Paul that male is not a Double Het from you? You know he is you sold him as a baby to ET he was from your Hypo Belgium Translucent's that is what you told them. I highly doubt ET would lie to me
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Isnt she suppose to be your friend Nicole? why would you throw your friend on the fire when the problem was with you???
A friend of mine called and told me
NOT a pet store who got him from Dragonz Whispers she bought him from a clutch produced by two Belgium Hypo Translucent's do you enjoy twisting peoples words around and lying to others like Dragonz Whispers about it? 
, I even put a SLIP in the box that came with the dragon as I do with many with a listing of Guarantees. The slip was along these lines also at the time I had a different health/satisfaction guarantee