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I'm considering breeding a new species of lizard into the pet trade here are the two options
Broadheaded skinks
9-13 Inches
Clutch size 8-13
Kinda dull coloration
handleable

Six lined racerunners
7-9 Inches
Clutch size 1-8
More vibrant
Smaller so kinda hard to handle

So just let me know what you think would be more desirable
Thank you
 
Have you checked all the relevant laws in your state to be sure that you can possess, breed, and sell these species legally?
 
Yes, that's the regulation I was thinking of.

It seems that NC doesn't differentiate between WC and CB when it comes to possession of natives; you might be in violations of the possession limit when your breeding gets going.

Might be worth more investigation.
 
Socratic Monologue said:
Yes, that's the regulation I was thinking of.

It seems that NC doesn't differentiate between WC and CB when it comes to possession of natives; you might be in violations of the possession limit when your breeding gets going.

Might be worth more investigation.
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Well many people own green anoles which are native to hear also all you need to get the license is to just pay for one just like a fishing license
 
Also, possession limits don't answer the question of whether it is legal to sell native wildlife for profit in NC. Here in Illinois, you don't need a permit to possess native, non-endangered wildlife, but you do need a permit to sell.
 
People breed and sell corn snakes, rats snakes, and many other animals that live here and I'm doing my research but i'm really interested in what you think would make better pets
 
seaborder said:
Well many people own green anoles which are native to hear also all you need to get the license is to just pay for one just like a fishing license
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Yes, I understand that NC has some licensing options.

Jacob, don't think anyone is trying to dissuade you from your plan. I'm sure not -- either sound like fun projects.

When you offer up animals for sale, though, especially for interstate shipping (not too many folks will pay money for CB when they can collect the same species themselves*) you open yourself -- and our whole hobby, really -- to increased scrutiny. It is best to cross your Ts and dot your Is before you get too involved in a project that might have some hurdles to jump.

On the question of which to breed, really only you can decide that. You might check to see if either of those species are the subject of many buyers' searches (websearch for "ISO *species name*), but you're not going to make any money from either, so keep the animals that you're attracted to.

*Yeah, someone will chime in here with a contradiction of this, but in general, my claim is true.
 
well thank you for your help i'm just trying to get involved with animals as soon as I can and also make money so i might need to come up with something else
 
seaborder said:
well thank you for your help i'm just trying to get involved with animals as soon as I can and also make money so i might need to come up with something else
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Breeding reptiles is a profitable endeavor for fairly few people. Very knowledgable, experienced folks who are breeding high-dollar animals might see some profit. My reptile room is basically a room with a door on it into which I shovel cash. :)

Being involved with herps is very rewarding, but I would strongly suggest you back-burner any lucrative dreams you might have until you have a few years of hobby keeping under your belt and understand the costs involved in establishing even a small scale breeding program.
 
I agree with everything John has said.

As for what you should be breeding and selling, try to pick things both that interest you, and that people really want. I don't see much of a market for either of the species you have mentioned, and you won't get very much for them. Since it takes the same amount of work to care for a valuable animal and a less valuable animal, set your sights a little higher. I personally prefer not to breed anything that does not have the potential to produce offspring worth at least $150. For example, you are interested in broad-headed skinks. Why not consider a type of skink that has more market demand, such as a pink-tongued or blue-tongued skink? You'd have to spend more on your initial breeding stock, but it would be worth it in the long run.
 
Socratic Monologue said:
Breeding reptiles is a profitable endeavor for fairly few people. Very knowledgable, experienced folks who are breeding high-dollar animals might see some profit. My reptile room is basically a room with a door on it into which I shovel cash. :)

Being involved with herps is very rewarding, but I would strongly suggest you back-burner any lucrative dreams you might have until you have a few years of hobby keeping under your belt and understand the costs involved in establishing even a small scale breeding program.
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This. All of this.
 
elena said:
I agree with everything John has said.

As for what you should be breeding and selling, try to pick things both that interest you, and that people really want. I don't see much of a market for either of the species you have mentioned, and you won't get very much for them. Since it takes the same amount of work to care for a valuable animal and a less valuable animal, set your sights a little higher. I personally prefer not to breed anything that does not have the potential to produce offspring worth at least $150. For example, you are interested in broad-headed skinks. Why not consider a type of skink that has more market demand, such as a pink-tongued or blue-tongued skink? You'd have to spend more on your initial breeding stock, but it would be worth it in the long run.
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All of this as well. These factors are incorporated into my own projects.
 
Between the two, the broad headed skink probably has more market potential. They are larger, more handleable, and easier to care for than racerunners.

As the others have said, though, be realistic about being able to sell these. Any time you are dealing with native species, remember that only a small portion of them are going to appeal to the typical herp hobbyist. Rarity, unique physical characteristics, personality, size, ease of care, handleability, saleability of the offspring- all of these are factors which will influence whether a species is going to become popular in the hobby.

My suggestion is, if you are intent on breeding herps for sale, that you focus on species with an observable demand. Even better, though, since you are new to the hobby, my advice is forget about breeding for profit, forget about all of the other factors that I just mentioned, and work with the species that most appeal to you. I think that you will find the hobby much more enjoyable when you do.
 
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