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Incubator DIES...UPDATE:ALL ARE OUT AND HEALTHY!!!

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Last night I did my routine of checking the eggs to circulate the air, and was overjoyed at seeing little shadows moving around when I candled them. Then when i check them this morning the Incubator was at 76 degrees!

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Eggs this morning were 80.3 degrees, I guess I didnt shut the door properly and the Incubator overheated and shutdown. To catch you guys up to help me determine a plan of action, I have 4 eggs, 2 have dimpled and wrinkled. All 4 are moving around inside and were still warmer than the ambient temperature in the incubator as I mentioned before. For now I sealed the lid of the tub they are in with plastic wrap and sat them on the heating source to my BP rack (a FB rack that has the heat tape on the underside of a metal plate) which is set at 90 deg and they have 1'' of vermiculite with them.

When I get home hopefully the Incubator is working again, but in the mean time any suggestions for what I should do? Little worried about them, I didnt get a chance to candle them this morning since I was already late for work and I am active duty so being late is not a good thing lol.

Thanks for any replies ahead of time
 
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Seems like you did the right thing. I would have done the same, put the egg box in the warm end of a rack system and set the t-stat to 90.
Reset the incubator when you get home. Hopefully everything is good.
 
I agree. That's what I would have done if I didn't have a backup incubator.
 
Good to know I did the right thing for the time being. Will try resetting it when I get home. Just hope they warm up a bit.
 
Sounds like you did a good thing, there. I'd be careful of the eggs on the heat source, though. For one, they could easily get too hot, especially if the thermostat probe is on the rack somewhere and not in the egg bin. Also, you don't want them to warm back up to 90 too quickly. Rapid changes in temp will harm the eggs more than the temp itself.

When the incubator gets going again, set it for the temp the eggs are currently at and then slowly raise the temp back up to where you want it.

I accidentally turned off my dinky little Hovabator last year when I went to bed one night and found the eggs in the low 80s the next morning. I turned the incubator back on with the temp set low and slowly turned the heat back up to 89. The babies hatched just fine.
 
Cut them and try to keep them 85-90. In 3 days they'll crawl out. Don't worry at all you've already done the most part. There not as sensitive as most think...
 
I agree with John...keep them on your rack and cut them. If they developed into healthy babies up to this point, they should be fine.
 
UPDATE:

Well looks like sticking them on the rack helped. When I got home they were at the right temp of 89 degrees, and still humid. Messed with the incubator and got it working again, just to be sure I checked it every hour after i had the temps stable in it again. Candled all the eggs and they all moved so looking good.

Phew!

Still think I should cut or just leave them alone? 2 Eggs still have not dimpled and to my suprise one of them might be twins!

Thanks for all that replied to help!
 
I dont like to cut, only time I cut is when a few others pip.some people do it all the time I dont. I lost a clutch cutting at day 55 so i dont do it anymore till they pip may have been something wrong or just bad luck but the eggs did not hatch babies drowned in their fliud.that was a few years ago havent had any proplems since.
 
Yeah Think I am going to leave them alone, at least for another full day. If the eggs were stressed from the temp drop and rise I dont want to add complications. Yet at the same time if there is a possibility that they will not make it because of that I dont want to wait too long. I will continue to candle them and If it looks like things start to go sour I will cut.
 
NEED ADVICE QUICK!

THE INCUBATOR DIED AGAIN!
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This morning it was at 89.3 deg after running all night. I put them in at midnight last night to make sure it would sustain on its own and just incase id didnt the heat would hold til 6 am when I checked again. So this morning when it was still working I left for work with a good feeling in my mind.

Got home from work, Temps read 76 degrees!

I cut the eggs to make sure they were alive and to help heat them up a little quicker with ambient temperature in the room (my house heat is now at 82 degrees, but its worth it).

3 out of the 4 moved (phew). One has not :)censored:).

Any advice for the one that has not moved yet? right now they all are back in their box sealed on the FB rack getting heat like yesterday. I am leaving them alone for one hour and rechecking to see if the one has moved its position.

Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Oh, and for those curious,

1 what looks normal
1 lemon pastel and still possibly a twin with it(looks like 2 different colors in there)
1 Pastel Pied!!! (YES! and he/she moved a lot so good sign)
1 im 80% sure is SUPER PASTEL PIED! (but this is the one not moving. AAAAAAH)

Thanks
 
Also, has anyone ever heard of hatchlings dying or having health issues from drastic temperature fluxuiation like in this situation?
 
I think they are fine I just dont like to cut,keep them in the rack & keep them warm if they come out on thier own they will be ok stop messing with them lol, patience my friend ;)
 
Thanks Greg! I didnt want to open them either but when I took them out they were cold, and with candling not moving. Panic mode set in lol.

Gunna check in 30 mins and pretty much leave them be after that. Just want to check the one that didnt move
 
Man, that sounds like a wild experience. Good knowledge to pass on though for sure! Please update on the possible super pastel pied!!! hope all goes well chad!
 
ALL ARE MOVING!

Checked the eggs again, and all are moving \o.o/

all 4 are in different positions, and moved when i checked them. currently got them up to 81 degrees and slowly climbing that temperature as time goes. Managed to snap a few pics as well =D

For now, going to leave them alone until 6 am.

Let me know what you think!

all eggs opened
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Egg #4: Normal maybe blonde?
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Egg #2: the possible twins, cant find any heads but 4 coils visible. Definite Pastel

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Egg #3: Pastel Pied? Very bright orange/yellow on its tail, kinda hard to see in this picture though, can see its head though
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Egg #1: The possible Killer Pied! Look at the color difference from egg #3!!!! And it looks to be a med/high white! In this fram cant see much of the white break up, but its there!
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What odds!!!!
 
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Why in the world is "cutting" people's first response to something like this?! Especially if they're only on day 50 or 51!! >.< What does cutting have to do with the problem at hand (other than having a good chance of further complicating the situation)?! *sigh*

You don't want them to warm back up too fast! The low temperature probably has a much less chance of hurting them than a rapid temperature change. Looks like the rack idea was working just fine, so keep doing that!

I agree with Craig: next time, put water bottles in the incubator. If something goes wrong, they will keep the temps from wild fluctuations.

EDIT: I'm glad they're still moving and seem to be okay so far!
 
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