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Georgia state law issues

Transporting animals through the state.

Well, here's a question that has popped into my mind several times:

If someone is driving down from Florida to say, North Carolina with a van filled with corn snakes and passes through Georgia, which does not allow the possession of corn snakes, are they in violation of Georgia state law while on the road within that state?
 
In Arizona you can transport prohibited species through the State and you are allowed to stop for up to 72 hrs. I would assume this to be the case in most States. I checked the Georgia DNR website and I could not find anything there about it. I would give them a call but good luck there...lol
 
maybe

georgia can be a tricky monster, i live here, i am moving, most likely your safe, but we have alot of silly cops they wouild probably hold them at gunpoint and cavity search each one, i am not kidding, its really odd. i would just have your dealer or buisiness info right on top of everything with the scientific names of the contents as most dnr agents arent available and dont do science thay just know how much to fine for that there thing,oh yea and they will kill the snakes if found in violation, seriously!d
 
We also live in Ga.. You are not allowed to transport illegal animals thru Ga.. I have had a few run-ins with the DNR here,,and let me say,," every single one that i have met are complete idiots"...and believe me,,we have met quite a few.. We actually very recently had an encounter with DNR at our home,,and the first officer that showed up was not clear on animals,,so he called in one of their ""experts"".. We had a tub with baby sulcatta torts in it,,,and their idiot "expert" swore up one side and down the other that those were baby gopher torts... I mean literally,,swore they were gophers..
He did however, know his rattlers...However,,he didnt even know the law on rattlers.. The DNR "no-no" list states that Crotalus are legal..Then the next page states ""only native venomous"" may be kept,,and then the very next page states ""absolutely NO PIT VIPERS""..
Another thing that makes it so bad,,they run up in your home like they were the DEA,,and you were known to have 50 kilos of coke in your house...
But you can bet your ass on one thing... if you have a cobra or gaboon,,,they will take your butt to jail in a heartbeat...
As far as the corns go,,i dont think they would say anything...Hell,,,most of them dont even know the difference.. We actually convinced this ""expert"" that a normal corn was actually a emoryi rat....How funny is that.. He knew it was a corn,,and still didnt take it..
I think the laws in Ga. are quite stupid,,as do most other people..
Rich,,,i would not worry about the corn issue...If youhave a Florida drivers license,,and a Florida reptile license,,,i dont think they would hassle you very much..
 
trueish?

they changes the laws on owning venomous in georgia, no on except zoos, they do destroy the animals in question, yes they are dumb! a friend of mine owns a pet store he called the dnr about african giant snails, they said yea no prob, he got them in sold some, was raided by the usda of all people in a farce sting, made him freeze the snails some were 6-7inches, d
 
Help this GA snake keeper change the laws

We cannot have any native non venomous snakes in GA. But here we can have native venomous without a permit.
I love corn snakes and eastern kingsnakes till the law changes we cant have them. I heard that the dnr has thought of chaning the law to where you could have a limited number of native species of snakes. but till the law is changed I am playing it safe!
I plan on moving soon after college to Florida. at least there I can have the snakes I like.

john
 
While I'm sure that the creation of such a law was well intentioned (protection of native species seems likely), it's laws of this nature that do nothing positive...

Anyone inclined to obey the law would also obey laws about limited wild collection or requirements for proof of captive breeding.

Anyone not inclined to obey the law already has their cornsnakes... Fostering a mentality of "It's okay if you don't get caught." that hurts the entire hobby and works against legitimate keepers.

Bad situation there, no doubt.
 
Calling all fellow snake lovers in GA!

I belive there is enough corn snake and eastern king snake affificianados in Ga to get the crazy laws changed. Also the pet trade is really suffering here. One of the number one selling snakes is a corn snake! We need to do something about it and fast before you know it we will not be able to keep anything at this rate.
 
As far as i know

its been attempted a few times, the DNR simply states they don't have the financial resources to pursue the claim, funny thing is, if I am correct they dont make laws, they enforce them, if anyone wants to set up a formal petition , we could start sending it around, the trick is it has to be on a specific snake, i.e. cornsnake.I do think it needs to be clear that its for c.b. only , and does not allow the catching of wild snakes as thats not the goal here. From that step it could be branched out. I think it would be benificial to all breeders, and stores country wide to push for this as it could add the 10th largest populated state to their possible buyers, we could see if Rick would/could set up a sign in or something , and it could be a blanket petition, they would be handwritten, but signatures none the less?
 
The law does not help

People kill harmless snakes in Ga every year. Its supposed to be illegal to kill any native non venomous snake. I propose a law that would allow native non venomous snakes but only captive bred also only allowing a certain number to be taken each time a person gos herping collects them. A kind of fishing/hunting license system like California would help. I wrote to the governor of Ga about this and he told me to find a sponsor in my county. I don't know of any one that would sponsor anything about snakes except maybe the pet stores in GA.


JOHN
 
Rumor??? About legalizing the keeping of native GA snakes (Non- Venemous)

I have heard that the DNR is working at changing the laws against keeping native non venemous snakes in Ga. as pets. (Such as Corns, Black rats and Eastern Kingsnakes) It would be a big help if someone could give me feedback on this. Is it just a rumor or is there some truth in there? If anyone knows I'd like to hear your input! Thanks!
 

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but how could we change it

the law has been in for a long time now, and i agree that it does nothing to help the native snake, but how could we change it? i personally know alot of people who have corn snakes, yellow rats, and chain kings, but dnr doesnt have any way to controll it, so why is it in effect? the only way that they can catch any one is if the animal is in a pet store and most of the time dnr inspectors dont know what the hell they are looking at all they look at is if the water bowls are clean. i live in savannah, ga and people go right across the river and they can buy any thing that they want in south carlina witch really hurts the small business' here who cant sell a 40 corn snake. so my question is how do you want to change the law? ill help yall as much as i can to do so.
thaddaus deppen
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Acutally it's not DNR that inspect the pet stores, it's the department of Ag. And no, they don't know what they are looking for.

I work in a pet store and I can't tell you how many times, people get mad at ME, when I tell them that it is illegal to keep the cornsnake/box turtle/whatever non-venomous snake they found in their backyard. I have had people get defensive and yell at me because I tell them that the snake they picked up in birmingham is illegal here in GA. Like it's my fault, the law exists.

Anyway, if you want to change the law, start with the Georgia Herp Society here in Atlanta. Dr. Mark Patterson is the president and I know he was working with DNR at one point to get a bill passed/witten similiar to the one you were talking about. He can be contacted at the Lanier Natural History Museam in Buford, GA. He keeps up on all the laws and workings to get things changed. He can tell you who you need to contact and what you need to do to get the ball rolling.
 
I live in Missouri, but anything I could do to help that law be changed/rescinded, I would be willing!

My mother-in-law lives in Savannah, and we go see her each year. After about twenty minutes, or so, I'm done, so I go play golf on Wilmington Island. I would love to be able to do a little legal herping there too, and I would certainly be willing to pay for a temp license to do so!

Let me know, if there is any help needed on this!
 
need help changeing laws in ga

as you may or may not know, in ga we can not have native snake that are not hot. so we need help in changeing the laws. any help will be great.
please contact john at [email protected] for more info.
 
Thanks, I have heard from many people that DNR was "in Progress" modifying this but never from a reliable source.
If you have any info on where I can find the laws in Ga. about keeping exotic cats and other exotic Mammals could you please let me know?

Thanks for your time,
Mystycal Jywyl :)
 

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You probably want the "Laws, Legislative Issues and Alerts" section. This may be moved to one of the topics over there when the mods notice it. While this is definately the highest-visibility forum on the site, the thread is off topic for the BOI.
 
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