Hey RJ-
You didn't call him Dick. At least you have that going for you.
ANTS!!!
You didn't call him Dick. At least you have that going for you.
ANTS!!!
Hey RJ-
You didn't call him Dick. At least you have that going for you.
ANTS!!!
Thanks, Mark and Dan...I'm laughing my butt off! Yeah, I didn't call him 'Dick.' Again, I'm trying to be nice here, and not my available 'antagonistic' self. Threats often backfire, especially when a simple chat will suffice in the beginning. Oh, well...I know he's a tough guy now, and will act accordingly.
I am a member of the HLCS and NWRA, author of a 40 page manual on horned lizards which is used by the Nashville, Montreal, Ft. Worth, and El Paso zoos, and herpetologist at UNAM in Mexico City. Professional zoologists subscribe to my forum for horned lizard information, and the director herpetology for the Nashville zoo invited me to present a paper at the International Herpetological Symposium, opposite Dr. Wade Sherbrooke. So, you know nothing about me. What do you do of real substance in the world of herpetology? Ever wrote a paper that was reviewed and cited as a source by zoologists and herpetologists? Ever had Dr. Richard Montanucci offer to review anything you wrote? I doubt it.
No!
The Director of the Herpetology DID NOT ask you to speak at the Nashville I.H.S. It is the CURATOR of Herpetology.
Nicole Atteberry (former Supervisor of reptiles, now at Miami Zoo) asked you to talk.
Nicole's zoo (Nashville) was the host zoo and typically the Curator is asked to procure "talks or papers" to be presented at an I.H.S. conference.
The Curator, if I recall, was in China at the time and delagated those respondsibilities to Nicole.
I remember your talk Mick and it was a "sparse" crowd for your talk. In my opinion, not very informational and "dry" I read your "rescue" terms on your website yesterday and you seem to have a bad attitude, i.e., don't call this number about your "pet" etc, so on and so forth.
Don't pump yourself up dude, your already full of hot air. And I am reasonably sure Wade Sherbrooke doesn't want you mentioning him in your posts or emails. And your responses to the "Mayor" were not, uh,, should I say, very friendly!
Randal Berry
Anywho, back to the quest for ants...
The mailman came, and delivered. Boy, a blind man could have written my small 'please put on a/c under carport' notification to the post office, but again, it was not a big deal that they weren't. I got them right away, they are great-looking ants, and my little critters are eating their hearts out.
I've often heard that the 'cheapest' is not necessarily the 'bestest,' and in my opinion, that is surely the case here. I will happily order again from this other company...they didn't hassle me over a couple simple questions from a new customer, but seem to know that a first-time order might not be done 'perfectly.' I sense that they appreciate my business, and that to them, getting all up in the air about things takes much, much more time than just sending a lousy box of ants.
Thank you everyone for your comments and support.
Randolph James Linburg (Rj) a.k.a. Mayor Newton
Port Richey, Florida
Well, it appears you are more of a childish piss ant than I expected.
If it is a serious situation that warrants expedited service, well, I like any other business out there, charge for expedited service requests!!!! This guy didn't want to pay it though, and thinks asking $5 extra to get an order out same day is asking too much! What a tightwad!
You will note also that my name calling did not start until he got rude with me. That's the way it usually goes. I'm curt, but civil, but the minute you get rude with me, I take the gloves off 100%. Some people just can't get that though, and think I should eat their unprofessional and rudeness because I am a business. I do not. Maybe that's not the best way to keep customers, but when you get like that with me, I don't want you as a customer. You can go somewhere else because it simplifies my business, and I don't have time for people that complicate it with rudeness, ridiculous notions, or refusal to offer compensation when asking for special treatment.
You are a nitwit for even asking if the order could go out same day, when my shipping policy is right on the friggin website! Then expecting that I have the time to make special notes for your letter carrier, if I even remember to! That's a special request, and the most logical thing for you to do, would have been to ask that of your letter carrier. Doubtful they would even pay attention to a note from me. It's not coming from the addressee, and they would probably get into shit for leaving a package in a location that is not designated for mail drop off, without specific instructions from the addressee. That's you moron! Your problem, not mine.
Essentially what this guys problem is...is that I refuse to do business with him.
He is NOT complaining that I took his money and he did not get a product.
He is NOT complaining that he received a substandard product from me.
He IS complaining that on the same day he placed his order, he received a PayPal refund, in full, within hours of his payment, and I asked him to do business with someone else. My prerogative asshole.
SO EXACTLY WHAT IS YOUR FRIGGIN PROBLEM BESIDES BEING SOMEONE WHO CAN'T TAKE REJECTION?
You received a professional, but short reply in my response to you. Don't like it? Tough S-
You don't get to determine what I decide to tell you my reasons are. Don't like it? Go to antsalive.com. I'll be more than happy to give someone like you my competitors information. You are a big immature obscessive compulsive nitwit!
I don't know who the heck you think you are, but actually, she was the "Area Supervisor". I mistyped "director", but big friggin deal. That's your problem with that statement? Really? That I gave the wrong official title of the person who invited me to present at IHS? Wow. You sure did catch me.
You could not have heard my talk, because I did not present. I said I was invited....I could not make it, but an invitation to present captive issues opposite Wade Sherbrooke is probably better than you will ever see, and I was honored to be asked.
Turns out you are quite the liar and full of it huh?
I'm reasonably sure you don't know Wade Sherbrooke, so we'll let him speak for himself.
Don't care if you think my contact me page is "rude". Has nothing to do with this either, but beyond that, because I list my personal cell number on the site, I inevitably get calls from morons at all hours that are not related to an animal in need, or from telemarketers. I chose the terms if I want someone to call my number, not you moron.
Tattoo Lost
Jun 10 (2 days ago)
to phrynosoma_tex.
Hello,
I'm sending a picture of a Desert Horned Lizard my wife and I recently purchased at a reptile expo in the Dallas area. My wife has always wanted one, having caught them and played with them when she was a kid. We've kept many reptiles over the years, with me breeding ball pythons and keeping a few other species recently, and for the past 5 or so years. We currently have 20 snakes, having reduced out collection to keep life maintainable. We also currently have 2 tarantulas and 2 sulcatas as pets. We've also kept iguanas and several other lizard species throughout the years. We reside in East Texas, near the city of Lufkin.
If everything is satisfactory, please let me know, and I'll place an order for ants. Probably 1,000 for now.
Sincerely,
Rick and Sandra Morro
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PhrynosomaTexas [email protected]
Jun 10 (2 days ago)
to me
Yes, I have been trying to shut down the sales of these lizards at such shows for some time. All those horned lizards being sold are wild collected, and typically in poor shape when they are sold.
Everything appears satisfactory as far as being able to order. I just have to verify you aren't holding the protected native species before sending ants.
You have what appears to be a juvenile male, and he is not in the best of shape; not surprisingly for a reptile show purchase. This individual is very thin. Can you provide an accurate weight in grams and send me a photo of him next to a ruler or a quarter, with one photo from the side on, showing his lower back/hips?
I would also advise purchase of the manual from my website. Despite having previous experience with numerous other herps, maintaining this genus in captivity is frankly a different ball game.
Mike
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Tattoo Lost
11:49 AM (11 hours ago)
to PhrynosomaTexas
Thanks for your reply. I'm placing an ant order now. It will be coming from paypal (this email). He is quite thin, but we're doing what we can. Gave him some small crickets last night, dusted with multi-vitamin. Fixing to look into some supplements I heard about that will supply them with formic acid. Not a daily thing, but should help if we get in a pinch. Definitely much rather feed him his natural diet.
Attached are the pics you requested. Thanks again!
Rick
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PhrynosomaTexas [email protected]
12:18 PM (11 hours ago)
to me
I will get back to you again as soon as I download and view these new pictures, but as I said, you really need to purchase that manual. You are already on your way to being the statistical 90+% who kill theirs within months. You need to read the manual, and stop listening to foolish notions you heard online, from someone on a generalist forum, about formic acid "supplement". I wrote an entire chapter on that.
Mike
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PhrynosomaTexas [email protected]
12:27 PM (11 hours ago)
to me
Yep, he's emaciated. Spine and pelvic bones protruding and he doesn't have the mass in the base of the tail and the limbs that he should have. Definitely a wild caught specimen who has been stressing and off his natural diet for probably a month or more. He would be a rehab case here, because many of them when they get to this condition, if they don't get the proper care right away, will soon die. He is in a catabolic state, and acidosis usually results. Do you have a gram scale?
You need to use caution with what you feed him. Crickets and other foods to "fatten" him up is the typical first mistake keepers make, and often results in a more rapid decline rather than improvement.
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Tattoo Lost
12:53 PM (10 hours ago)
to PhrynosomaTexas
He weighs right at 10g. Yes, he's thin. He jumped on the crickets, so I have a feeling the vendor selling him probably wasn't feeding him much if at all, and I'd wager not ants either. If it's going to take awhile to get ants from you let me know please. I'll find someone who hopefully has some ready to ship out. I'd much prefer to deal with someone knowledgeable in the lizards and the ants, though.
Rick
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PhrynosomaTexas [email protected]
1:10 PM (10 hours ago)
to me
The vendors usually feed them crickets, and that's all. Many vendors won't even tell you that they need ants, because once you google on your phone how much ants are and how few places sell them, and you have to mail order...well, there goes their sale huh?
Horned Lizards jump on the crickets, not because he is necessarily hungry in particular, but because it's a rare fare item in the desert where he is from, and he is programmed by nature to go after them with haste. He wouldn't see that very often in the wild of Nevada. It will also lead to a slowing of metabolism and digestion, and may lead to impaction if you aren't careful.
I make no guarantees on delivery times. It's weather dependent, as the website says. Nobody just has them "ready to ship out". That is not the way this works. Ants have to be gathered, that is, if you want them fresh and to live long once you get them. But, if you'd like to order from antsalive.com, be my guest, as I just got an email from the owner of backwater reptiles, who was wishing to transfer his future orders to me, because my competitors are no longer answering his phone calls or emails because they are backlogged, as they always get. He has dozens of people still waiting weeks later on their ants, and they are hitting him, as the middle man, with chargebacks now...
Be careful the decisions you make in haste if you think you are going to save either time or cost. You now have to get used to ordering feeders well before you need them, and appreciating when it takes two weeks, unless you want to go looking for a wild colony yourself. I told you, you are in a different ball game now.
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Tattoo
1:41 PM (9 hours ago)
to PhrynosomaTexas
I realize a lot of this already. Though I did not know this little guy was emaciated, I was well aware of the need to get ants and the difficulties getting them. We have Harvester ants in the area but we have no equipment or knowledge on gathering them
I merely suggested I could go elsewhere because your tone seems to indicate you don't really want to sell me ants. I bought the little guy, and though it may be difficult and I may even fail, I'd like to do my best to have him thrive. I have no problem with the wait time to get the ants. I read as much on your website. I would like to build a business relationship here, but your emails come off pretty condescending, making it difficult on my part. You may think I'm "one of the 90%" and you may be right, but I'm still going to try my best.
Just let me know if my order is good, and we can go from there. As for your book, I'll have to think about it.
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PhrynosomaTexas [email protected]
2:04 PM (9 hours ago)
to me
The order is good. I suggested nothing of the sort on not wanting to sell you ants. That's an emotional reaction on your part which is not grounded in any fact you can cite, other than your flawed perception of something informational that I gave. If I didn't want to sell you ants, I'm direct enough to say so. I don't hint around, I just tell people I don't want to sell to them. Therefore, your suggestion of going elsewhere based on some flawed premise about me, is what was really off base here. If you wish to go elsewhere, then do so. Simple as that. I don't need to know about it, as if it's some threat.
Again, your reading condescension into an email that is merely informational in nature, and that is another defense emotional reaction from you. My opinion that you are starting out as the 90+% who will fail within months, is my opinion, and that opinion is based on a decade of work with this genus. You should rather be thankful of advice you receive which may better your experience and the longevity of your new pet, rather than acting miffed and dismissive. I am a reptile rehabilitator. I'm known through out the Phrynosoma community of keepers as the person to come to for health issues and rehab of this genus. My manual was written for zookeepers primarily, and they use it. If you wish to dismiss what I'm saying and have to "think" about the manual, then that is your choice.
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Tattoo
8:04 PM (3 hours ago)
to PhrynosomaTexas
Please let me know when my order ships out. Thanks.
Rick
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PhrynosomaTexas [email protected]
8:14 PM (3 hours ago)
to me
I'm not liking your "tone". I think you are going to continue to be problematic, so I will do you one better. Your refund should hit you momentarily. Go somewhere else, as you talked about. I'm not even going to mess with you.
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Tattoo
8:30 PM (3 hours ago)
to PhrynosomaTexas
Lol. Thanks!
Rick
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Tattoo
8:45 PM (2 hours ago)
to PhrynosomaTexas
Just for the record, I would have been fine just ordering ants, and probably eventually would have gotten your "book.". Unfortunately, you have too big an ego to deal with. I'd really be surprised to hear you make any money at all with your attitude. I was never once rude, yet I received rudeness fairly early on from you. I find that surprising, considering you claim to be a rehabilitator (not licensed I'm guessing) and a rescue (naturally you're not 501c3)
Sorry we couldn't reach a mutually beneficial business arrangement. I'm going to guess you'd only keep trying to make me feel ill-equipped to handle this little guy and try to convince me to send him to you for "proper" care.
Good luck in your endeavors. Sounds like you've got it all under control though. lol
Rick
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Didn't read. Just fuck off K?
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PhrynosomaTexas [email protected]
8:53 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
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I don't see where I warranted his attitude. As I stated in my emails, i think his whole game is not selling ants, but rather convincing people to surrender their animals to him so that he, in his infinite wisdom and knowledge, can "properly" care for him. I guess he was born knowing everything about these lizards.
I'm sure I'm better off though. Between the bad attitude, poor business ethics, and hawking his "digital book" he likes to brag about, it seems any business relationship we might have gotten going would have fizzled out pretty quickly.
I also wanted to point out, that unless I'm missing something, I see no accreditation on his website or in any other information I've looked up on him. No certified rehab credentials, no 501c3 status. I also see nothing to show he has any schooling in herpetology or psychiatry (he did seem to want to psychoanalyze my emails, after all.) Sounds like one of those animal hoarders to me, scouring craigslist all day from their mom's basement for more animals.
Anyway, just thought I'd add to his glowing record of business transactions (or lack thereof.)