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Boa Hydration

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A good friend of mine has been asking for my advice on boa hydration, I have given him what info I know but thought it might be best to get others involved. When dealing with a dehydrated boa, especially when they are not eating, I have always added pedialite to there water, even going as far as administering the water through a feeding tube. But I haven't dealt with a De-hydrated boa in a very long time. Can someone chime in here and give us all some pointers?
 
I guess it depends on how severe the dehydration is. Sometimes a good soak is all it takes (they can absorb some fluids through the vent). Sometimes time in a 'sauna' helps re-hydrate the tissue in the throat - placing the snake in a tub with damp moss or a warm wet towel so the humidity gets very high. Sometimes if it's not too bad, you can offer wet feeders to help get a little extra water into the snake. I've heard of people injecting water into the feeder as well but I've never done that.

When my boa was severly dehydrated the vet put her in an incubator overnight and then I tubed her fluids a few times.
 
AbsoluteApril said:
I guess it depends on how severe the dehydration is. Sometimes a good soak is all it takes (they can absorb some fluids through the vent). Sometimes time in a 'sauna' helps re-hydrate the tissue in the throat - placing the snake in a tub with damp moss or a warm wet towel so the humidity gets very high. Sometimes if it's not too bad, you can offer wet feeders to help get a little extra water into the snake. I've heard of people injecting water into the feeder as well but I've never done that.

When my boa was severly dehydrated the vet put her in an incubator overnight and then I tubed her fluids a few times.
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He has stated they have a very flat appearance to them, with loose skin and no intention of eating. We talked about soaking but I didn't know if that would be enough to get them hydrated.
 
Have him explain how they got into this condition and how long the animal
has gone without sufficient husbandry practices for that species.
Boa didn't do it to its self,"very flat appearance" didn't happen over night nor 7-14 days
under "minimal"care conditions.(fish tank and heat lamps,all bets are off)

A competent DVM is strongly suggested,attempting to rehydrate or force anything
will likely shock the animal and kill it.The animal likely requires rehydration via SQ injection.
A proper Vet exam will also determine the under lying issue(s) that put the animal in its current state.
 
I will see if he can chime in. The only time I ever experienced a boa being dehydrated was when I accepted rescues, which I no longer do anymore.
 
that "flattened state" strongly implies the animal has already shut down
and is running on its own resources to correct what ever issue(s) it has.

Just aint a good thing . . . .
 
Metachrosis said:
Have him explain how they got into this condition and how long the animal
has gone without sufficient husbandry practices for that species.
Boa didn't do it to its self,"very flat appearance" didn't happen over night nor 7-14 days
under "minimal"care conditions.(fish tank and heat lamps,all bets are off)

A competent DVM is strongly suggested,attempting to rehydrate or force anything
will likely shock the animal and kill it.The animal likely requires rehydration via SQ injection.
A proper Vet exam will also determine the under lying issue(s) that put the animal in its current state.
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This is how it came to me. I picked up a collection of 30 boas that were involved in a house fire. There are 5 out of these that have not eaten. My husbandry is quite sufficient as the only problems i've ever had with my own collection have been mouth rubs.

I've moved my own collection inside my house and have these in my snake building while quarantined. My building is insulated and heated/cooled usually around a constant 80 degrees. My caging is heated with differing temperatures pending on gender, mating and whether they are gravid, but I'm generally running 86-90 hot spot and 80-82 cool spot in their cages.

Due to the fire some had RI, I cranked up the temps on that particular cage system and they seem to be doing fine now, no mucous on them or their cage glass and have taken 1 meal.

The 5 I'm not even sure if they are dehydrated or what the problem is. I have no background information on them at all. The original owner was devastated by his losses and does not want to talk about them. I got them from a friend of his who was keeping them for him and I asked to talk to the original owner but he did not want to talk to me.

One i'm sure just had babies recently as she is the flabby one, and that is how she came to me. The others are big girls with good weight on them, they just do not want to eat. There is a possibility that some are gravid as i was told??

Ordinarily I would get them to the vet, and I usually don't talk about my finances on a forum like this but my wife was off work for a little bit so it's put me in a financial pinch at the moment and I just can't fork out the minimum $75 per snake just through the front door charge, normally I am financially capable to take care of this many animals which is why i took on this collection. Which has been about 3 months ago.
 
Some clarity on the issue for sure,you have a huge task before you my good man.
The ones in worst shape are likely to have had the worst end of the smoke inhalation
from the fire.Rehydration is paramount but in their condition they should only be approach via SQ injections from a qualified DVM.
You of coarse will have to weigh the cost and net potential worth
in trying to save them or putting them down.

Due understand there is "suffering" taking place while they await your decision
 
Metachrosis said:
Some clarity on the issue for sure,you have a huge task before you my good man.
The ones in worst shape are likely to have had the worst end of the smoke inhalation
from the fire.Rehydration is paramount but in their condition they should only be approach via SQ injections from a qualified DVM.
You of coarse will have to weigh the cost and net potential worth
in trying to save them or putting them down.

Due understand there is "suffering" taking place while they await your decision
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Tough indeed.
 
Thanks Tommy, I do understand the suffering part. I've tried giving them time to adapt and de-stress. For sure it's been a task. For the most part I believe they were well taken care of. It was by far not a cheap collection of snakes as there was not a normal in the bunch. I will call my vet on Monday and see if they can work with me. I'm on my phone right now so it's a chore to type.

In the mean time do you think some Tylan and a good soaking might help until I talk to my vet?

Jeremy, thanks for getting this post started for me. Work just had me a little busy today.
 
Medications would be of no use to a system thats shut down(to make a real difference)
Hydration will free up their system to accept forward progress if significant damage hasn't already occurred.
Another thing to know/remember,snakes that are compromised to low levels generally always carry chronic or reoccurring issues.(they never fully recover)

Nature is very precise and void of all emotion and intent
You survive birth,reproduce when/if afforded and depart the world.
 
Thank you very much for your input. I really do appreciate it. It's a shame this has happened to these beautiful animals. I'll update as things progress.

V/r

Bill
 
Firebill said:
Thank you very much for your input. I really do appreciate it. It's a shame this has happened to these beautiful animals. I'll update as things progress.

V/r

Bill
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I would recommend a good soak and verify they are getting hydrated as first priority.
 
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