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    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

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Bad Guy Beware of Bill Hudson/Ecomorph Reptiles

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Beware of Bill Hudson when thinking about buying a het anything from him. My first deal with him was a breeder Bumble bee 100% het ghost male and a breeder 100% het ghost female for $1000.00 and a Lesser female that was in the 400g range for $500. Well where to start? So not long after I bought the snakes which were the first snakes I ever owned. Well I began breeding him to a pastel girl and a couple het OG females one being the one he sold me as a compatable line of ghost. After hatching out both het og cluthches not 1 visual ghost. Oh almost forgot because he gave me such a great deal on the breeding pair all he wanted was a female BB which I looked at the prices for breeder BB's 100% het ghost and I was ok with that. Well needless to say when I confronted him about not proving out he said he wasnt going to stand behind them because I didnt pay het price. Also this guy now expected me to still give him a female BB and I told him as soon as the male proved out I would do so. Well that wasnt good enough for him and he was going to put me and my partner on the BLACK LIST of other breeders and sue me. As for the Lesser I bought I ran into the guy that Bill said produced her and started chatting with him(Jason Amos) in which he told me he didnt sell any females to Bill only males. So I went home and popped HIM!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah thats right a male. Once again Bill wouldnt stand behind him either. So the long and short of it this is only the tip of the ice berg that Bill has done me wrong and not to mention all the others here in Nor Cal. Since this Bill has sold snakes to other people as hets and now that people are trying to get ahold of him for paperwork he has moved changed all of his numbers and wont respond to anyone. Well I have good news to those in search of Bill his phone # is (253) 330-9025 He now is living in Washington. If he changes his number again you can write him a letter and send it to 15930 62nd Ave. NW.Gig Harbor Wa,98332. Thanks for reading as Im just trying to inform people who they are dealing with and if you do buy a snake from him sex it and get paperwork at time of deal/transaction.
 
Getting paperwork isn't the issue of they aren't really hets anyway.

Thanks for helping spread the word about con artists in our industry.

Russ Gurley
 
PROOF of the things you are saying will go along way into people taking it seriously.

Do you have any emails between the two of you?
 
Yes proof would help, emails, pictures, screenshots...etc.
Also putting your posts into paragraphs, spacing it out, or even hitting tab would make it a lot easier to read.
 
Bill's response when you confronted him certainly seems inappropriate to me. However, I am curious how many eggs you produced in Het to Het pairings. It's possible that you were just unlucky...it's happened before.
 
Sorry about grammar and punctuation but I'm not here for grading. Proof of Bee deal all over phone so nothing for that, but Lesser deal speaks for itself or you can contact Jason amos since he is the one who produced it. Also Jaoson has had bad deals with Bill. If Bill wasn't being shady why would you change your number and not get back to the people that he has sold stuff too that have been trying to contact him? I do have texts between Bill and I about him holding snakes of mine hostage because of a deal involving my partner and him. Then traded or sold one of my snakes (woma female) to Rod (boaman1). Which after letting Bill know that I was going to file a report with el cerrito police dept. He quickly had to get the woma back from Rod. I didn't know about the Woma deal until after I got my snakes back and was talking to Jason Amos about my woma girl and he told me about Bill and Rods deal with the Woma. The list does really go on and on with the stuff he has done to me, my partner and many others up here. So I'm done with him and just letting you guys know. You or anyone else can do what you will from there. By the way this wasn't a 1000 mile relationship I had been to his house many times and even met his wife and his parents. So here just sa heads up and if you want look at bill hudsons good guy forum for more references. This is a hobby for my partner and I and don't need to sell or trade snakes to eat. Ok I'm done now.
 
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301047

Here is the link to the other boi that started as a good Guy and is ending in a bad Guy. Bill did flat out cancel all his phone numbers, took his website down, ignored every person trying to contact him (at least 4 people), and then moved out of state. I started his good Guy boi after doing 2 transactions with him, but regret giving him any credit because of the way he has treated me, my wife, and all the other people he has scammed. It is not OK, and most probably wont have a lot of texts or emails to post because he likes doing things in person or over the phone...
 
I have to retract my positive feedback for Bill because of a few bad deals that happened between us. All around a negative experience and I just avoided dealing with him. I really hope other hets that he sold prove out but I highly doubt it since "all" of his snakes seemed to be het for something. I even knew a few of the people that sold him the morphs before they miraculously became hets. Not trustworthy at all. V/R Paige
 
So I contacted Bill yesterday about the BB het OG, het OG female and the Lesser female that ended up being a male and this was the text conversation. Me: Hey alot of people are looking for you. Also I want a female Lesser like I paid for and paperwork on Bumble Bee het og and het og female. Bill: F--- you man... the people who matter know where Iam...people like you dont. You are gonna get what you got coming trust me. You are a thug liar and your reputation is shit...Jason Pratt... you are evil and Iam going to make it a point to ruin you. Bill: Post that bitch! Me: Haha you are already gettin a reputation for a liar and a scammer up there. Thats why people are calling down here to find the truth about you since you talk s--- about real breeders. Yeah thats why you ran away and didnt leave any contact info. Once again karma is a b----. Me: So does this mean I dont get my Lesser female and paperwork for the Bee het og and the het og female? Me: Should I take the lack of response as a no? Me: So are you not going to stand behind the snakes that you sold me or the Lesser? Me: Thats fine your response will be noted. That was the extent of our conversation. So I know he has seen the BOI threads and knows that people with valid reasons are trying to contact him. So what and how he handles his past business dealings are in his court. Like I said before this is a hobby for me and my partner and people like this will definiyely take advantage of people new to the hobby/business, So with that said I have hopefully helped others with sharing a small part of the bad dealings with Bill as well as the others that posted on here as well.
 
I have also had bad experiences with Bill Hudson and saw all of the snakes and problems Paige also had. He has spread many lies about me and the health and condition of my snakes that was told to me by several people that did not know each other at that time. I did sell a group of lesser poss het albino males to bill. When I talked to Jason Pratt at a show and he told me he got one of my lesser poss het albino girls from Bill I told him to go home and check it because I didn’t sell him any girls… I also did a trade with a small breeder that was getting out of snakes. When I went to his house he showed me what he had left. Some nice small Mojaves, some breeder normals, and a few other things. I talked to that breeder a couple weeks later and he told me that he had taken the rest of his snakes bo Bill’s house and that Bill told him that he had talked to Ralph Davis and he had told him that his breeder male Mojave was “Really A Phantom” so he was happy that bill was now selling them as “RDR Phantoms”. I then see an add by Bill on craigslist for RDR Phantoms and get a call from Rod Hartman telling me that he just got 1.2 Phantoms from bill. But he thought they looked like mojaves when he seen them. I then told him about what Mark the small breeder had told me. The next day some one (not me) posted a warning add on craigslist about bill and the Mojave/Phantoms. Bill then sent me a threatening email thinking that I posted the add on craigslist. So the first thing I did was email Ralph Davis and ask him if he knows bill? Or told Bill that they were Phantoms and sent him the pic of the breeder male that bill sent him and link to bill website where he had baby “Phantoms” for sale and asked Ralph what did they look like to him? Here are the emails: (I did respond with a few F-bombs in my reply to him but I was mad at the time…)
Cease and Desist

Bill To Jason Amos
From: William Hudson ([email protected])
Sent: Sun 12/18/11 1:10 PM
To: Jason Amos ([email protected])
You are breaking laws and don't know what you are talking about.

This is a legally binding notice and you are here and now warned that charges will be filed both civil and criminal.

Also... here's a pic of my RDR Phantom so you can tell the difference.

Willaim Hudson


From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Cease and Desist
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:39:44 -0800


I don't know what the **** you are talking about? You are the one that spreads Lies. your the one out there telling people I have sick snakes and I am a crack head so what the ****? I will tell who ever I want the Truth! **** off and go crawl in a hole. Stop telling lies!





From: Jason Amos [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 12:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Hi Ralph Please Read



Hi Ralph, my name is Jason Amos I am a little breeder in the bay area California. I am sorry that the first time I am emailing you is is not to buy a snake but to ask for your help / opinion on a situation I have come to know about. A guy here in the bay area california named Bill Hudson I think is selling Mojaves as Phantoms. He got some snakes from his friend Mark. I made a trade with mark and saw his mojaves and breeder male mojave I called Mark He told me Bill was selling his mojaves as phantoms because Bill told Mark he talked to you and you told bill That the breeder male was a Phantom. I told a friend that got 1.2 Phantoms this info and now bill is making threats at me. I am also going to forward an email that Bill Hudson sent me today with a pic of his "RDR Phantom Male" . and here is a link to Bill Hudson's website where he has a pic of a "RDR Phantom" baby for sale.
http://www.ecomorphreptiles.com/available.html

1 Do you know or have talked to a Bill Hudson?
2 Did you tell him the male was a Phantom?
3 Dose the baby on the website look like a Phantom to you?
4 Dose his Pic of the Breeder male RDR Phantom male from the other email look like a Phantom to you?

I know you must be busy but any info from the Man would be very much appreciated!!!

Thanks
Jason Amos




From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Hi Ralph Please Read
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:38:46 -0500


I do not know Bill…….and all the pics look more like a Mojave than a phantom to me.



Thanks,
Ralph

Ralph Davis Reptiles, LLC
Office : 410-876-8093
Cell : 410-984-5194
Fax : 410-871-1781
Web : http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com
Email : [email protected]
Ralph Radio : http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ralphdavisreptiles
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Cease and Desist
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:37:13 -0500


Not really….looks like a Mojave



Thanks,
Ralph

Ralph Davis Reptiles, LLC
Office : 410-876-8093
Cell : 410-984-5194
Fax : 410-871-1781
Web : http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com
Email : [email protected]
Ralph Radio : http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ralphdavisreptiles
YouTube : http://www.youtube.com/ralphdavis
Twitter: http://twitter.com/ralph_davis

Facebook: Facebook | Ralph Davis


The last time I talked to Bill on the phone right after I got the response and forwarded it to Bill. Bill said maybe it would be best to stop selling them as Phantoms until he “proves them out”. After getting to know him and seeing other peoples interactions with him I sold both of the snakes that were “Hets” that I got from him as normal and just took that loss…

Also here is a pic of the “RDR Phantom” male that was purchased as a Mojave as a baby…
 

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That's the same "Phantom" he has up here that he wanted to breed with my female and split the clutch. I am so glad I investigated this tool before conducting any more business with him.
 
I have to say that my overall dealings with Bull Hudson Started out good but ended on a very negative note from some very bad business dealings with him which involved Theft and miss marketing of animals solely for the purpose of His personal Gain
I caution anybody (especially newbies) that are doing or thinking about doing any business with Bill Hudson to be extremely careful and get everything in writing and signed either before or at point of sale and all said paper work on the snakes or breeding of said animals at time of sale with no exceptions!
It’s just a shame that people like Bill have to drag this Hobby / industry down with lies, deception, and idle threats
Thanks to all the people who help look out for these Bad Guys and who are not afraid to expose them for what they really are!
 
So it looks like he has changed his phone number again but I do have his wifes email address so if you want it pm me
 
I just heard from a friend that Bill was given snakes to take care of for a couple people who have no idea he has left the state with their snakes behind their backs. I personally think that the local authorities need to be contacted and charges need to be filed. Unfortunately this is what I had to do, well was in the process of filing a report against Bill in order to get my snakes that he was holding against my wishes and would not let me get them. When he found out I was on my way to the El Cerrito Police Dept. and was finally tired of fighting with him to get my snakes back he called me crying and was sooooo eager to make a time and date for me to get my snakes. The date was of coarse pushed back because he had to get back my Woma female from Boaman1 that he had traded or sold to him earlier without my knowing. Poor Rod/Boaman1 got a lame story from Bill why he had to get the Woma back and ended up getting yje short end of the stick on that deal. Also just to make things clear Rod/Boaman1 was another innocent person caught up in Bills web of lies and did not know that I was the rightful owner of the Woma female.
 
Man this is the sad thing my partner and I still have more bad deals with Bill that havent been shared YET. Bill I know you are very well aware of what is at stake and probably will read this post, just do the right thing for these people that you have wronged. Otherwise I hate to say it but the way this BOI is going and the people coming out with their bad dealings with you is gonna make it very hard for you to sell another snake with your reputation. Not to mention if the people whos snakes you have and are supposed to be caring for file theft charges against you, anything over I think $500.00 is grand theft and on top of that taking stolen property across state lines is another thing.
 
craneboy1 said:
I just heard from a friend that Bill was given snakes to take care of for a couple people who have no idea he has left the state with their snakes behind their backs. I personally think that the local authorities need to be contacted and charges need to be filed. Unfortunately this is what I had to do, well was in the process of filing a report against Bill in order to get my snakes that he was holding against my wishes and would not let me get them. When he found out I was on my way to the El Cerrito Police Dept. and was finally tired of fighting with him to get my snakes back he called me crying and was sooooo eager to make a time and date for me to get my snakes. The date was of coarse pushed back because he had to get back my Woma female from Boaman1 that he had traded or sold to him earlier without my knowing. Poor Rod/Boaman1 got a lame story from Bill why he had to get the Woma back and ended up getting yje short end of the stick on that deal. Also just to make things clear Rod/Boaman1 was another innocent person caught up in Bills web of lies and did not know that I was the rightful owner of the Woma female.
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The friend was Jason Amos that I was talking to about Mark Willete's snakes that Bill was watching sorry for the not naming the 3rd party.
 
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