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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

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I am looking for a herper/field collector in the Southern California area -- San Diego, Orange County, Carlsbad, etc. -- that can track down and obtain a specific locale of California kingsnake for me. I do realize it is winter and they are all brumating, but when the spring comes around and they begin waking up, I would like to try to start searching for my project animals. I have been on a fruitless search for striped coastal phase Cali kings, which are the chocolate brown and yellow variety. I'm just not finding any on the market whatsoever -- not even banded coastals. I used to have a rare pure Carlsbad coastal pair with perfect stripes, and unfortunately lost them when I lost my collection a few years ago. This was the pair I had:

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The chocolate and yellow variety are mostly found in coastal areas and areas with more vegetation, but can be found occasionally in sandy/rocky areas. Coastals are not as common out there as desert phases (black/white and black/cream), and are apparently not that common in the hobby as I guess there is less demand for them. But I have always liked them and I'm hoping to get lucky in finding a few. Here are a few more pics of what I am looking for:

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I am looking for both genders, any ages/sizes. The striping does not have to be unbroken, and doesn't have to run the whole length of the body. Abberant is OK, just prefer if at least half of it is striped. The cleaner the sides are, the better (like in the pics). I may potentially be interested in a banded animal if it has rich chocolate coloring with bright lemon yellow markings. I also may be interested in a black animal if it too has bright lemon yellow markings (striped only in this case, no bandeds). No off-whites or creams, yellow markings only. If you are interested in doing this scout work, I will compensate you for your time and cover all shipping expenses. If you can manage to track down a really nice specimen or even a Carlsbad locale like the ones I used to have above, I will DEFINITELY provide appropriate compensation. If interested, please reply here, PM me, or e-mail me at [email protected] . Thanks!
 
Wow. I didn't know that. I guess that nixes that.

But then I have to ask, where do all these other people get coastals, deserts, lavendars, blue-eyed blondes, hypos, chocolates, stripes, wide stripes, bananas, Carlsbad and San Diego locales, etc? All the founding animals for these variations were captured in the wild. I know at least 2 people that have specific locales that no one else has, and neither live in California.
 
You can get a permit from California F&G to captive breed and sell native reptiles. So in order to do this, you'd need to have a fish and game license to capture the original pair (you can only have two of any one species) then get the separate permit to breed and sell the offspring. It's not too hard, just make sure that you're doing everything legally.
 
Typical. Everyone knocking on the illegal laws. Look up there state laws and look for the allowed bag limit by species. Email fish and game and see if they will permit you or the collector to sell the species in a small number to produce captive animals. Most will allow it for a small permit fee. There is always a loop hole.
 
For the ones your looking for you would have to go north of San Diego and Carlsbad. Costal San Diego and San Clementy (this includes Carlsbad) are currently not allowed to be collected even with a permit. The only exception are resurch permits that must be gained through a university for the purpose of studying wild snakes. The permit laws on collecting them now state snakes in the San Diego county of the kingsnake varity may not be collected west of the I-5. Its unlikly to find them east of the I-5 as you move away fom the coast variety.
 
Oh PS i live out in the Borrago Desert and often go herping in the summer. If there is any high desert variety you're looking for let me know and i will keep an eye out.
 
WolfPaw said:
For the ones your looking for you would have to go north of San Diego and Carlsbad. Costal San Diego and San Clementy (this includes Carlsbad) are currently not allowed to be collected even with a permit. The only exception are resurch permits that must be gained through a university for the purpose of studying wild snakes. The permit laws on collecting them now state snakes in the San Diego county of the kingsnake varity may not be collected west of the I-5. Its unlikly to find them east of the I-5 as you move away fom the coast variety.
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No, you are thinking about the CA Mountain kingsnake not the CA kingsnake. CA kingsnakes can be collected in all the areas you mention. This thread is full of misinformation.
 
JenHarrison said:
Wow. I didn't know that. I guess that nixes that.

But then I have to ask, where do all these other people get coastals, deserts, lavendars, blue-eyed blondes, hypos, chocolates, stripes, wide stripes, bananas, Carlsbad and San Diego locales, etc? All the founding animals for these variations were captured in the wild. I know at least 2 people that have specific locales that no one else has, and neither live in California.
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The way they do it legally is by getting a breeders permit so they can legally sell the offspring from their wild caught snakes. And just so that you know, the coastal variety is much more common than the desert variety because the coastal habitat is more favorable for CA kingsnakes. The desert phase blk & wht is more common in captivity because most people prefer blk & wht over yellow & brown. Look for a guy named Shannon Brown. He sells different locales of CA kingsnakes and might be able to help you if you are still looking.
 
I already contacted Shannon, he does not have this variation of coastal Cali king. I contacted Kerby Ross, who I originally bought my pair from, and he doesn't work with them anymore. I contacted someone else on another popular classifieds site that listed coastals for sale, but they are like Shannons and are cream and black, not the true coastal variety like what I want.

So thus far, I'm still SOL, and no luck in any field collecting offers either. I may be going out to San Diego in August and may just have to go herping myself and ship them home. :/
 
Bewarerly of shipping out of sate with wild caught animals unless you have the proper permits. And from what Cal Fish and Game locally has told me (I live is San Diego) it is not legal to collect coastly variety anymore. I was out for lizards not snakes when a warned told me this. You can "catch" and breed but the wild animals themselves can not be sold. Getting a permit right now for sipping and breeding takes a few weeks at lest with the latest budget cuts.
 
How would anyone know if the animals I were shipping were wild caught vs. captive bred? SYR protocols call for the box to be labeled with species name and common name, nothing about captivity status.

I will call my friend in LA and see if she can get a definitive answer on the legality of collecting these animals.
 
JenHarrison said:
I already contacted Shannon, he does not have this variation of coastal Cali king. I contacted Kerby Ross, who I originally bought my pair from, and he doesn't work with them anymore. I contacted someone else on another popular classifieds site that listed coastals for sale, but they are like Shannons and are cream and black, not the true coastal variety like what I want.

So thus far, I'm still SOL, and no luck in any field collecting offers either. I may be going out to San Diego in August and may just have to go herping myself and ship them home. :/
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Did you know most juvenile coastal Cal kings start off cream & black, then change to yellow and brown as adults?
 
In the locale lines I am looking for, they do not. They are bright lemon yellow and rich chocolate brown from the moment they hatch. The ones I had (pictured above) were hatchlings when those pics were taken, and all their siblings were identical. That is what I'm looking for.
 
WolfPaw said:
Bewarerly of shipping out of sate with wild caught animals unless you have the proper permits. And from what Cal Fish and Game locally has told me (I live is San Diego) it is not legal to collect coastly variety anymore. I was out for lizards not snakes when a warned told me this. You can "catch" and breed but the wild animals themselves can not be sold. Getting a permit right now for sipping and breeding takes a few weeks at lest with the latest budget cuts.
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You can't legally collect California "mountain" kingsnakes in San Diego but you can legally collect up to 4 Common California kingsnakes anywhere in CA with a fishing license. I guarantee you were giving false information about not being able to collect coastal brown and yellow Cal kings.
 
JenHarrison said:
In the locale lines I am looking for, they do not. They are bright lemon yellow and rich chocolate brown from the moment they hatch. The ones I had (pictured above) were hatchlings when those pics were taken, and all their siblings were identical. That is what I'm looking for.
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Yes, I know there are some that come out that way but most don't. If that's exactly what you are looking for, you will probably be looking for a long time. Too bad you don't live here, I could take you to go find them but not in August. They are not out during that month.
 
I don't mind waiting for the perfect snakes. I want a pair like what I had, so it's worth waiting for.
 
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