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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

Truce?

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Before anyone starts a poll as to whether or not I should be committed, please hear me out on this one...

I think some people may have said [posted] some things in the past week that they did not entirely mean. I do not want to discredit any opinions and concerns that have been said, but I do think that some things may have been stated in haste due to emotions running rampant. Everyone responds differently to loss, tragedy, confusion and fear, and we are often times not seen at our best. We may say things that we do not mean, and the things we do say might come out wrong. We also may read too much into what someone else says, and we may interpret something differently from what was intended. This is only compounded by the fact that our sole interface (in this situation) is a computer screen, and the lack of face-to-face contact only adds a barrier to our ability to accurately convey our thoughts, ideas, and emotions.

I've spent a lot of time reading recent posts about disagreements, complaints, accusations, concerns, conflicts of opinion, and skepticism over someone else's actions. I do not think that anything has been said or done that cannot be forgiven. We are all only human, and we may say and do things that we do not mean. True forgiveness however, can only come from those whom we have offended, and sometimes we must ask for the offended's forgiveness. Although we may not always receive the forgiveness that we desire, we can only humble ourselves knowing that we have made an attempt to make amends.

I will admit that while reading certain posts, I began to lose some respect for certain people. Then I tried to look at things from a different, broader perspective, similar to the one I am trying to portray here. If anything, I guess I have more respect for people based on what they've said and done, considering the circumstances and the simple fact that they felt strongly enough about something to act on their feelings and opinions. Life isn't a spectator sport, at least not the way I see it. It's about making judgement calls and sticking our necks out on the line for what we believe.

At one point I found myself thinking, "Who the **** cares? This is just an online forum. There are other forums out there. There are other sources of information, opinions, ideas, support and entertainment that cater to my interests." Then I took a step back and looked at how well this site and this community combines all of these things, and I don't think I would want it any other way. No, I'm not trying to tell people how they should feel, nor am I attempting to garner more respect. I would just like Fauna to come back to the source of information, opinions, ideas, support and entertainment that it was; the reason I joined, the reason I am still here. It's a community folks. A community where we can seek advice, ask for support, pitch our ideas, and participate actively with people that share similar interests.

I've been thinking about making this statement for a while now, and my biggest hang-up has been WHEN? I thought maybe it's too late; that the damage has been done, bridges have been burned and reputations tainted. Then I thought, well what if it's too soon? What if certain issues that need to run their course have yet to do so, and what if some emotions are still so new that they are still blinding and otherwise affecting how we react? I guess it's just a judgement call on my part, but one I am willing to make, even if the majority leans further one way than the other.

I would like to make my apology to anyone whom I have offended by either saying, or not saying something; whether it be an opinion, reaction or accusation. I'm not excluding myself from the human race, and I know that I too make mistakes and bad judgement calls. Life is too short to dwell on grudges and indifferences, and we may not get a second chance to make things right. I know this all too well, and despite trying to forgive myself for certain things, the pain and regret still haunt me. Anyway, I guess I'll end it there before I delve too deeply into my personal life.

I apologize for this post being so long, and I thank you for hearing me out. Please, just take a moment to comtemplate what I am trying to suggest here, and perhaps consider how it may apply to you.
 
Paul, I think now was the perfect time. and you echo my thoughts so completely, and expressed them so elegantly, it leaves me with nothing more to say than, "Yeah, what he said!" and thanks.
 
leaftail said:
Paul, I think now was the perfect time. and you echo my thoughts so completely, and expressed them so elegantly, it leaves me with nothing more to say than, "Yeah, what he said!" and thanks.
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Robin? 06-29-2005 11:42 AM leaftail thanks for dumping this steaming pile of poison in the middle of fauna and skipping off to join other forums.


Laura, hopefully your private emails and sentiments will reflect your agreement of this truce; I agree that people should, as best they can, take the high road.....
 
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Robin? 06-29-2005 11:42 AM leaftail thanks for dumping this steaming pile of poison in the middle of fauna and skipping off to join other forums.


Laura, hopefully your private emails and sentiments will reflect your agreement of this truce; I agree that people should, as best they can, take the high road.....
Lucille,

I have defended you in the past and have considered you a friend. I have given you positive rep points on several occasions and never zinged you.

Now...read your post above, think about recent events, and think about that post some more.

Do I need to spell it out more for you?

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Jim, I have just returned and it is good to see your post.
 
wtf?!

and people wonder why.... sheeesh.

will you EVER learn?!
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I rest my case.......
 
Paul, your post shows a genuine kind intent, and I applaud you for making the effort.
 
Perhaps there are still some things that need to be aired, and I think that's totally understandable. I think all people deserve a second chance, and if we're open-minded and willing to accept each other for their faults and mistakes, that we can get past the 'uglies'.

If this thread is nothing more than a place for people to vent, all I ask is that we try to do so constructively, and that we recognize our own shortcomings. Hypocrisy is by no means exempt from human errors, and I think we should at least try to accept and appreciate anyone's attempts to change.

I can't hold Laura's message to Lucille against her. To do so would be hypocritical, since prior to looking at things from a different perspective I was having similar negative thoughts and reactions to things that other people have said and done.

Lucille, welcome back.
 
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Robin? 06-29-2005 11:42 AM leaftail thanks for dumping this steaming pile of poison in the middle of fauna and skipping off to join other forums.


Laura, hopefully your private emails and sentiments will reflect your agreement of this truce; I agree that people should, as best they can, take the high road.....


Is this not the same garbage that started the last thread into a downward spiral of shame????????

Not every piece of dirty laundry needs to be aired for all to see!!!!!

Paul started a fantastic thread that really made me smile today. Which I desperately needed. Then I scroll down to find that.

I just don't understand...................... :no01:
 
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Robin? 06-29-2005 11:42 AM leaftail thanks for dumping this steaming pile of poison in the middle of fauna and skipping off to join other forums.


Laura, hopefully your private emails and sentiments will reflect your agreement of this truce; I agree that people should, as best they can, take the high road.....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Can you say Burning Bridges :>poke2<:
 
The post came across the wrong way, I was attempting to show that even though things have been said, and some of them hurtful to me, I am hoping all of us will join hands in a truce.
I think we should all take the high road here and insist on re establishing friendships and helping each other.
Laura, I think I should begin with you; I seek you in friendship.
 
Lucille, I have always valued your opinions and have never thought too badly of anyone on this site. I don't quite understand why you have done some things you have done but thats just the way life is. I don't understand a lot of what people do. If I did I would be walking on water right?

I respect everyone here in my own little way. Even through all the garbage and everything else I can honestly say, I think come the end of the day we are all here for the same reason.

Paul, it was a great post and I applauder your attitude and outlook through all of this last week. It's people like you who make this place what it is regardless of all the arguments, disagreements and petty fights.
 
Yes I must say that was an excellent post Paul.

And Lucille........ perhaps you should learn to keep private messages and private reputation notes just that way......private.

It may be a newsflash or shocker to you but some people may take offence to that sort of thing...... Or simply be annoyed with the fact you seem to love sharing private notes and conversations with friends and the public no less. I can understand in certain situations, but it seems nothing is sacred or priveleged to you. You must understand that not everyone thinks the way you do. This is something that has been brought up numerous times yet you simply ignore it. Hence my previous "will you ever learn comment?"

Your intentions may be good, and in this particular case I am sure they are...

Just some food for thought....
 
Quite honestly, when I read Lucille's opening post, I thought "Oh crap! She is telling everyone where they can stick that offered olive branch." And really, I can't say I could blame her.

I am relieved to see that it is not as I had thought.

From my end of it, I do not hold grudges. Heck, I even send and receive cordial emails to a guy who filed suit against me. We have resolved our differences and decided to get on with our lives. I would like to see that sort of thing take place here as well.

So pick an olive off the branch that has your name on it. Hopefully there won't be any remaining unclaimed.
 
Ill pick one off as long as I don't have to eat it. :>Puke<:
 
ahhh, the vomit smiley... now i know things are getting back to normal :)
 
paul wonderful post, i applaud you... everyone else great post and kudos
lucile once again an extreme laps in judgement
 

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paul wonderful post, i applaud you... everyone else great post and kudos
lucile once again an extreme laps in judgement

Robin, it is a peace message from the heart; I was saying, that despite everything, I am offering friendship. There is even an olive branch from me, to you. With a yellow ribbon tied around it to symbolize Texas, and a picture of a little gecko printed on the ribbon.

To everyone else, I also extend my friendship, and bring my message of peace.
 
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