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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

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    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

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Beware of this place, bought a Red Tail Green Rat Snake from :reddevil:Robert who owns the "Museum" which was supposed to be "Captive Bred" Instead he is a Wild Caught Snake from Asia. Which means death is likely in his future in captivity. When I got him from :reddevil:The Serpentarium he was covered in red bumpy scabs, Robert said it will go away no big deal. It ended up being a combo of Blisters, parasites, and a upper respiratory infection. I asked Robert to give me a refund to pay for the snakes Vet care, and he said no. Only a refund if I give him the snake to be euthanized, and or sent back the shipper where his fate would be clear, ending in death... No compassion from this guy. I would not be on here right now but having been lied to, not to mention payed more for a Captive Born animal, and last but not least the care of the snake was left up to me whatever finances needed to try and bring him back to a healthy state.....:censored:
 
Brandon, do you have emails between you and the seller, and a picture of the afflicted snake? Did the snake appear ill on receipt, and is that when the seller offered a refund?
 
I do not have email, because he is a local store, I do have pictures of the snake, when i went to pick him up he did have the scabs, however I made a point to ask what it was, and was told "It will go away" No refund offered upon initial pick up because he convinced me that the snake was healthy. When I went back two weeks later as his condition worsened I asked for a refund to pay for his vet care. He denied it to me, but only if I gave up the snake to be euthanized.
 
You went to the store in person... looked him over and then paid for him. You are asking for a refund weeks later for vet bills. It is not uncommon for anyone to refuse that. He did in fact state that he would refund the funds if the animal was returned. That seems like a logical thing to me. I understand your concern for the animal's welfare, but perhaps you should have contacted the store about all this PRIOR to taking it to a vet.
 
Hello Brandon,

Firstly, the particular animal in question was never sold to you as a captive bred animal. I could be wrong, but I am not aware of anyone who has ever bred this species in captivity, anywhere(?).

When speaking about what snake would best fit what you were looking for - you said that it HAD to be green in color and would make a good display animal - I went over a few different species with you that we had on display and explained that we only carry captive bred animals and didn't work with Red Tail Green Rats, but could certainly special order one for you. I can only imagine that THIS is where the misunderstanding happened. We went over many snake species (Green Tree Pythons, Emerald Tree Boas, Baron's Green Racors, etc.), but you were dead set on a Red Tail Green Rat Snake.

If you remember, I actually tried to steer you away (more than once) from a Red Tail Green Rat Snake, telling you that they don't do well in captivity, which is why we don't work with them. I will admit that I did not say that they were wild caught, but I also did NOT say that they were captive bred. Unfortunately, you assumed this from our above mentioned conversation. I honestly figured that you knew a lot more about this particular species from how dead set you were on having one. I figured you had at least done your research on them (my mistake, and yours).

Nonetheless, I apologized for the misunderstanding when you came in with the snake wanting a refund, and I gladly offered you a full refund. Unfortunately, you wanted both, a refund AND the snake. When I tried to explain that refunds didn't work that way, you threatened to tarnish my name on Fauna. I said that was fine, because I know the members here understand the way refunds work.

I understand your frustration, Brandon. You thought you were getting a captive bred animal and you now have an animal with blisters. Working with wild caught animals can be very frustrating at times, which is why we don't really mess with them.

When you first came in to pick up the snake for the first time, the very first thing that I said and pointed out to you was the TWO (it was not covered in blisters) small bumps on its back by the tail. I said that I wasn't expecting to see bumps but they may go away after a shed and to keep us posted. If you would've refused the snake then I would've completely understood, but you did not once show any type of concern.

Now, back to when you brought the snake in demanding a refund - I want to make sure I cover all of your statements - you felt that I showed no compassion because I mentioned the possibility of euthanization; that's understandable. However, I feel that you misunderstood me. During me trying to explain how refunds worked, you said, "well, what are you going to do with him if I give him back?" I said, either send him back or ultimately euthanize him if he does not respond to treatment. Yes, I was blunt. And perhaps I should have shown more empathy (I apologize for that). But you have to realize that you had just threatened me at that point. I simply wanted to make it clear that you are entitled to a full refund, but that the snake would need to be turned over back into our care. There was no point in arguing and I just wanted a decision to be made; refund or not. It's very difficult to show empathy to someone who is threatening you because they're not getting their way.

Again, I apologize for what you've been through. It is always unfortunate when there is a misunderstanding. Your statements here are not 100% accurate, however, I am still willing to provide you with a 100% refund. So long as you're willing to return the animal.

At this point, I don't know what else I can do for you. I wish you and your snake the best, whichever decision you make.

Robert Coral
The Serpentarium
www.SnakeMuseum.com
 
I payed for the snake in advance. So he could order him for me... I showed my concern and was told by who I thought was a trusted individual that he would get better. I guess this doesn't make sense to you...

g.spencer said:
You went to the store in person... looked him over and then paid for him. You are asking for a refund weeks later for vet bills. It is not uncommon for anyone to refuse that. He did in fact state that he would refund the funds if the animal was returned. That seems like a logical thing to me. I understand your concern for the animal's welfare, but perhaps you should have contacted the store about all this PRIOR to taking it to a vet.
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There it is Brandon.. return the animal for a refund. What part doesn't make sense to you?

Oh yeah... you want to keep the snake and have the refund too. Man.. what's wrong with MY thinking???
 
You are 100% wrong Robert, you said to me that you could order me a red tail green rat "wild caught" for cheap but they do not do well in captivity...so we proceeded to order the Captive Bred... please do not humiliate yourself with lies...there was no misunderstanding. FYI, here is a link to a person that has not only bred them, but has crossed them with janseni creating a morph. http://www.oxyjansen.com/index.html

I can't believe how you just keep on with your lying, before I left with the snake I had your store worker call you personally in front of me and ask you about the bumps. They are nothing and will get better you said. When I saw you in person a few days later I asked you face to face, and I got the same response.

One last thing, if what you just ranted about for so long was in fact true I would not have even came into your store asking for a refund. I understand you have a reputation to keep and are willing to say anything to protect it. I do not expect less, or should I say "more" in your case.
 
g.spencer said:
There it is Brandon.. return the animal for a refund. What part doesn't make sense to you?

Oh yeah... you want to keep the snake and have the refund too. Man.. what's wrong with MY thinking???
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see spencer, the whole thing is how he lied to me and left me with a problem to fix from the get go. So morally if it were me that did this to him, I would fill obligated to help. Even if it meant investing some of myself or money to do so. But, this is may just be the Christian side of me thinking, I know this kind of trait is not too common these days.
 
Robert,

I have bred Gonyosoma for years as have quite a few others in the USA (Freight Frietas, Chris Harper to name a few). Granted we are an obscure community but there are usually quite a few cb or ch animals offered for sale regularly.

Imported Gonyosoma are not for the uninitiated or under experienced! They typically come into the US as most Asian Colubrids do...renally challenged due to dehydration, loaded with an amazing array of internal parasites, and of course the overall stressors involved with the whole importation regimen. The fact that they are, by nature, a nervous and aggressive snake only exacerbates the impacts.

Long term success with wc animals is a very low %. Lots of Flagyl, Panacur, and Baytril are called for but knowledge of appropriate dosage amts. and frequency are needed as well. The unfortunate issue for the importer and the eventual buyer is that most initially seem to do very well....eating, drinking, etc. There is a lag time between this and the eventual impacts of the issues noted above. I have never seen any seemingly healthy animal crash as hard and as fast as an imported Gonyosoma! Hope this helps any potential purchasers of said animals, they're a crap shoot at best and both parties involved should know what they're potentially getting into.

Bill Hughes
 
g.spencer said:
There it is Brandon.. return the animal for a refund. What part doesn't make sense to you?

Oh yeah... you want to keep the snake and have the refund too. Man.. what's wrong with MY thinking???
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It is apparent you know Robert, and feel obligated to defend his honor. Just to inform you, he has none. At this point your gonna need a bigger shovel.
 
I do not know Robert. Nor have I ever set foot inside his business. I am just commenting on what you stated. And if you wish to still think you are right in the way YOU conducted the transaction so be it. But again, you had options. You did not need to purchase the animal. You could have had a refund. And you still can. It's all in print. But you just do not wish to go that route, since you cannot keep the animal AND have a refund too. Just basics here. No worries, I wish you and the animal the best and I will not respond any longer as it's clearly a moot point.
 
g.spencer said:
I do not know Robert. Nor have I ever set foot inside his business. I am just commenting on what you stated. And if you wish to still think you are right in the way YOU conducted the transaction so be it. But again, you had options. You did not need to purchase the animal. You could have had a refund. And you still can. It's all in print. But you just do not wish to go that route, since you cannot keep the animal AND have a refund too. Just basics here. No worries, I wish you and the animal the best and I will not respond any longer as it's clearly a moot point.
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No crap dude, and I chose to LEAVE the store with the snake and seek help for him! That was and is my decision dude! I don't want the refund obviously the snake is doing amazing things at this point from a gracious hand from GBU Enterprises Inc. Need I mention FREE OF CHARGE...See this is how Americans, do things they help one another, not just cut and dry actions to benefit ones self.

Obviously you don't care for the green rat because you are fixated on the return portion of this whole thing, which was only and addition to evidence that he does not give a crap for animals, or any species thereof. The point being made was he screwed up, and he should have helped. Done, end of story.
 
Brandon, can you [post pictures of the snake, the bumps, and post something, some documentation from the vet showing you took the snake to the vet?

Since spencer and Robert are accusing you of wanting a refund and the snake, then it would help if we can see evidence that what you would supposedly be getting is really a refund and a SICK snake.
 
Brandonadam209 said:
No crap dude, and I chose to LEAVE the store with the snake and seek help for him! That was and is my decision dude! I don't want the refund obviously the snake is doing amazing things at this point from a gracious hand from GBU Enterprises Inc. Need I mention FREE OF CHARGE...See this is how Americans, do things they help one another, not just cut and dry actions to benefit ones self.

Obviously you don't care for the green rat because you are fixated on the return portion of this whole thing, which was only and addition to evidence that he does not give a crap for animals, or any species thereof. The point being made was he screwed up, and he should have helped. Done, end of story.
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wait let me guess, I am wrong he should not have helped. It is my problem because this world is becoming narcissistic and evil, DOG EAT DOG, am I right?
 
rosebud945 said:
Brandon, can you [post pictures of the snake, the bumps, and post something, some documentation from the vet showing you took the snake to the vet?

Since spencer and Robert are accusing you of wanting a refund and the snake, then it would help if we can see evidence that what you would supposedly be getting is really a refund and a SICK snake.
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Tell me how to add pictures and I will be happy to show you a before and after
 
I am too tired to talk you through that, but someone will, I am sure.

Can you also scan and post the vet bill? Those usually have a diagnosis on them. It would help to see the diagnosis and see how much the vet visits are costing you.
 
rosebud945 said:
I am too tired to talk you through that, but someone will, I am sure.

Can you also scan and post the vet bill? Those usually have a diagnosis on them. It would help to see the diagnosis and see how much the vet visits are costing you.
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Like I stated earlier, I took the snake to GBU Enterprises in lodi, CA and they are caring for him as we speak. "FREE OF CHARGE" There is a timeline here, and I am sure you can figure out that partif not ill simplify it...no refund, oh k crap what now? hmm??????, thanks GBU!!!!!:thumbsup:
 
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