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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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The First Red Dragons.

Ed Clark

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After a long pleasant conversation with my buddy Bob Mailloux I thought I wound share a tidbit of early red dragon history.

In the early 1990's there were very few red dragons in the hobby, Bob picked a couple here and there.A good size shipment came in reportedly from the Frankfurt, Germany zoo. I could never be confirmed tho. Bob snapped them up and started producing what he called red/gold dragons. he had a vet by the name of Rick Abrahams that was able to buy 20 of these early reds. keep in mind Bob was the only person with red dragons. Rick produced a few but tired quickly breeding dragons. I got wind of what he had then tracked him down to his Vet office in Socal. those days we had no internet....at least nothing we knew of.

Around the same time period Bob was finding red dragons in pet shops with ticks on them, there was alot of talk they were imported directly from Australia but no import papers could be found.

Took a little bartering before I could get all that he had, these were sub adults and young adults. I was shocked when I opened that shipment up as ALL the dragons were missing body parts such as feet,legs and tails. that did not stop them from breeding I produced many hundreds of red babies from this group sending them everywhere. in the 1980's all we had was normals to work with I was holding back the very light colored normals with yellow or orange on their faces. it was fun breeding dragons in huge metal stock tanks listening to the scritch, scritch all day on those metal tanks.

Bob and I both on different coasts many miles apart were producing red babies trying to supply a massive demand for red dragons.

Bob is the mastermind of the red bearded dragon.

Here's an old pic of a clutch of my early reds.
 
chris allen said:
What year is that picture from....your early reds?

Interesting.
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1993-1994? found some old pics in a box in attic then called Bob for a trip down memory lane.that clutch was 12 eggs if I remember correct, nothing so amazing as seeing red hatchlings after working with normals for years.
 
You have to have some pictures then of all these red babies that you were producing alongside Bob Mailloux.

It sucks then for you that Bob got all the credit(which I feel of course he rightfully deserves as being one of the pioneers in the dragon trade), and you didn't get anything.

It's also a little odd that suggesting your time frame of what you were doing that you would also be running ads looking to buy dragons? Funny though no ads advertising your Red dragons. Flipping back then in the mid 90's also I would imagine?
 
All the attachments are gone from everything on the site. I think Rich posted he was trying to get a backup.

It's not even drama. It's B.S and people need to start calling this guy out on everything he says.
 
And for the record, I'm not saying Ed Clark didn't have anything to do with dragons back in the 80's or 90's......I know he did somewhat, but to the extent he posted above is crazy. Why even make a post like this?

Could you sound any more conceited?

History, facts, actual breedings, etc would all be interesting....at least to me.

Your buddy, supplying massive demand, it's all crap.
 
chris allen said:
All the attachments are gone from everything on the site. I think Rich posted he was trying to get a backup.

It's not even drama. It's B.S and people need to start calling this guy out on everything he says.
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I am nothing if not fair (I try to be;) ). IMO, it would be unfair to pester Ed, while leaving Nicole unscathed.

In my opinion, Ed took Nicole under his wing, taught her all she knows and she has outstripped the "master.":ack2::rofl: He didn't take into account that the "pupil" would soon become the "teacher."

If we are going to call out Ed (waste of time, really), we should also call out Nicole.:shrug01:
 
I agree, but this post has nothing to do with Nicole. It was about Ed Clark and and some history on bearded dragons(attempt I guess at best).
 
Ed has been saying this exact crap in different levels for a while now. Just another ploy to try and prove he is of some importance to the reptile world (which he is not). I have spoken with a friend of mine that has been keeping dragons since they were first imported into this country (and no I will not post her name as it was requested I not drag her into this bs) and she literally laughed her ass off when I asked her if Ed Clark was one of the pioneers of the red line.

But alas, there are many that will buy into his crap just like they do every day cause he hasnt stopped selling reptiles yet.
 
I love how people pioneer something that is naturally occuring. Very interesting story mate, how dragons with ticks are "appearing" in petshops in the 90's since the borders where closed 14 years earlier.
 
If Ed invented money it still wouldn't change the fact that he's nothing but a scamming, sneaky liar.

Ed, I don't care what you did in the 90's. Why don't you fix the stuff you've screwed up in 2009/2010(and I'm sure 2007, 2008,etc....).
 
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