• Posted 12/19/2024.
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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
  • Responding to email notices you receive.
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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

Oklahoma state law issues

Breeding laws?!?!

From the wildlifedepartment.com webisite it seems you need a liscense to breed reptiles even if for non-commercial purposes.

Well I don't have a problem with that, but it says that all breeding stock must be PURCHASED. So does that mean I can't breed my legally wild caught Treefrogs? Does that mean I can't go to ,say florida, and catch some non-native anoles to breed in OK.?

To get around this could I give my breeding stock to someone and then buy it back from them to get the proper reciepts?

Whats the sense in paying someone for wild-caught animals anyway ( when you can easily obtain them yourself)?
 
got a reply from some dude from wildlifedepartment.com

Well he said I need a Permit to breed ( I told him I knew that already). He said I could breed them. He also said to keep the paper work, but I don't have any. Well If I get in trouble at least I'll have the email.
 
here's the deal...

Oklahoma State Wildlife Department officials are only concerned about herps which are native to Oklahoma. So, if you breed boas, pythons, tortoises and other non-natives, they do not concern themselves with your activity as it does not fall within their purview of law enforcement. It's also danged near impossible to get clear and consistant answers concerning native species for any snakes other than rattlesnakes. It's only been in the past couple of years that they've made any effort at all to address these questions at all and even so they can't seem to get their act together worth a darn. I breed corn snakes (non-native to OK) and looked into the breeding license since they are somewhat related to black rats and the Texas rat which are native and was told that it isn't needed.

As I once considered field collecting (with a legal huning license) and breeding a few quality animals I began the inquiry process to make certain that I would remain legal. I used their state regs on the issue which said that I'd be legal to "take" reptiles. I was informed that even with their "breeder's license" and proper records of breeding that it would be illegal for me to keep or sell any of these snakes and/or sell the offspring. And that came from a dept. official in Oklahoma City. However, my local game wardens said that the response was full of nonsense as it was obviously contradictory to the written and distributed statements. (BTW, the local game officials have seen our collection first-hand and came to pick up a large alligator snapper that was dropped off a few years ago because they're a protected species here and know what we keep, breed and sell.)

The best, and easiest, thing to do for people living in Oklahoma is to steer clear of native species unless you can get air-tight documentation of them being captive born elsewhere. However, it was made clear that unless it's a rattlesnake they really don't want to mess with hearing about it. Oh, unless you are caught collecting a mess of box turtles to take out of state to sell like somebody about 7 or 8 years ago who was caught with a pick-up full headed out to California...this made a small blurb on the news and was pushed aside quickly...his real crime according to the regs at that time was not possessing a vaid hunting license, breeding permit and the animals he was looking to sell weren't rattlesnakes.

You can keep asking questions of officials at the state office for weeks and months (I dare you to do so and keep records of their replies along with a copy of current regs as distributed to the public) and you won't get consistent answers or answers which correspond to the regs as you see them.

David
 
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