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Motley Genetics

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Hi everybody,

If I were to breed a Jungle Het. Albino to a Motley Het. Albino would I get all motleys or would there be some non-Motley offspring as well?

I was also wondering if Kahl albino and Lipstick albino are compatible.

Thanks!

Allison
 
You motley is actually the heterozygous form of the morph. That means that when you breed it, half of the offspring will be hets as well, or motleys. So half your litter will be motleys.

The lipstick line is a lineage of Kahl strain albinos, so yes, they're compatible.

Chris
 
Alright, great! Now I just have to find a jungle het albino female that's of breeding age.
Thank you for your help James.
 
Jungle and Motley are co-dominant traits, correct?

Specifically, you can expect the following ratios in a litter:

Jungle Het Albino X Motley Het Albino

1/16 - Wildtype
2/16 - Het. Albino
1/16 - Motley
2/16 - Motley Het. Albino
1/16 - Albino Motley
1/16 - Albino
1/16 - Jungle
2/16 - Jungle Het. Albino
1/16 - Jungle Motley
2/16 - Jungle Motley Het. Albino
1/16 - Jungle Albino
1/16 - Jungle Motley Albino

Hope I did that right...
 
That's what I was thinking the ratios would be. Hopefully I'll hit the Jungle Motleys and Albino Jungle Motleys. :thumbsup:
 
That sounds like a nice pairing. You have a small chance at getting albino jotleys but theres a chance. I would shoot for the long run and go with a nice sunglow jungle so that you have the hypo gene for you to make Sunglow motleys, Sunglow Jotleys, albino jotleys, jotleys, hypos, hypo motleys, hypo jungles, jungles, and some others that im probably forgetting. Anyhow, i would stick with a homozygous animal for the female because then all the animals will first of all....have a higher chance of inheriting albinism, second off, your odds would be much high at producing sunglow jotleys and sunglow motleys, and you wouldnt have to label any of the het animals as 66% het but as 100%. It will probably will take more time and money to do so but i think its well worth it to me. Also, do you have a motley lipstick het albino? Who did you get it from?
 
I just bought an amazing Jungle het lipstick female! Super clean colors and awesome abberant patterns. My motley male is just het albino. I'm making sunglow mots (hopefully) in another pairing. I'd rather make my own hypo jungles and then make sunglow jungle mots from there.

Thanks!
 
I totally understand what you mean. It's hard to see the true colors of the jungle when the hypo trait is thrown in there so sometimes it's hard to tell what your getting with hypo jungles. I would love to see pics of the jungle het lipstick if you don't mind. :)
 
And when making Sunglow motley, you are aware that the hypo gene and motley gene can't be in the same animal. If you do albino to hypo motley het albino for instance you won't get Sunglow motleys. You have to have the hypo and motley in opposite animals. Like Sunglow x motley het albino. Just a heads up because the motley gene can throw people off.

Take care

Ulysses
 
Yeah I've heard that before. For the sunglow motleys I'm pairing up my hypo het albino female with the motley het albino male. I'll take pictures of the jungle when I get her which is the week after next. She is awesome!
 
Morphism said:
And when making Sunglow motley, you are aware that the hypo gene and motley gene can't be in the same animal. If you do albino to hypo motley het albino for instance you won't get Sunglow motleys. You have to have the hypo and motley in opposite animals. Like Sunglow x motley het albino. Just a heads up because the motley gene can throw people off.

Take care

Ulysses
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Is this because hypo and motley are on the same loci, and if they are in the same animal only one of the two genes pass on?

Similar to thesituation of parahet boas, which are het for either Sharp albino or BWC.
Or are we talking about something different here?
 
I am buying her from Matthew Jackson. He doesn't have another female that he is selling unfortunately. She is a really beautiful snake.
 
the gecko geek said:
Is this because hypo and motley are on the same loci, and if they are in the same animal only one of the two genes pass on?

Similar to thesituation of parahet boas, which are het for either Sharp albino or BWC.
Or are we talking about something different here?
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Its something along those lines. I dont know all the exact genetic terms but i know that when a hypo motley is bred to another animal, lets say a normal, it will produce hypos and motleys, and no normals apparently but there will be none in the litter that will have both of the genes for whatever reason. Apparently the motley genes throws things out of wach. I think this is the reason that you see hypo motleys the way that they are. It seems that the hypo and motley gene kind merge and throw off the pattern mutation of the motley gene. I hope that makes sense. Im no boa scientist by any means but i understand what can be done and what cant be done for the most part.



Ashley,

Unfortunately he doesn't have another one. However i would like to check out how she looks. Thanks! :)
 
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