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Can i put a baby gecko with its mother in the same cage for its whole life? Or should i keep all the hatchlings together and wait until the one i am going to keep is full grown before i put them in the same cage. I highly doubt feeding will be a problem because i always just put the superworm infront of the gecko or a little farther away so she doesnt get lazy on me. Any how back to the subject, will the mother ever bully her baby when shes a baby and/or juvi or is it pretty safe to put her in the cage after shes about 2 weeks?
 
It's not safe. Generally, you shouldn't house leos of drastically different sizes together.
 
Thanks,

Yeah i know you shouldn't house leos that far apart in age but i thought since it was her baby and all she might care for it. But i guess she does leave them in the wild but this is captivity so it was just a thought. Thanks any ways.
 
Nope, she would as happily eat her own baby as any other hatchling.
 
Aaannd...

You run some risks putting all your hatchlings together too. Hatchlings are famous for biting off each others' tails. And eating them. This past season I had to re-learn this the hard way. Four of my hatchlings got their tails bit off because I was putting 2-4 hatchlings together per enclosure. I knew better too. :bandhead0

If this double-posts let me apologize now. My ISP.... rrrrrrr.
 
leaftail said:
Nope, she would as happily eat her own baby as any other hatchling.
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Correct me someone if I am wrong, but I don't belive she would actually EAT them. More along the lines of fighting, not allowing the hatchlings to eat...things of that nature. But I don't think I've ever read anywhere that leos are even the slightest bit canabalistic...but again, correct me if I'm wrong.
 
If it was small enough, she might eat it, yes. I know of two instances (not my geckos) of adult leos eating a new hatched baby.
 
Sorry, I don't mean to be gruesome. I just don't want bad things to happen to his (Tyler i think) hatchlings.
 
Hmmmm... full grown Leo's mouth size -vs- 2 week old hatchling wiggling around the enclosure. Add in that Leos do NOT care for their young....
I'm thinking this is a common sense question. Seeing how some of mine snap up huge superworms or anything that moves, obvious answer...
 
tails

I have never know a gecko to deliberately eat the tail of another, but when hatchlings are housed in larger groups (especially in small enclosures), they will go into a 'feeding frenzy' and bite the tail of another one causing the gecko to autonomically drop it's tail, or drop their tails from the stress. When the tails come off, they continue to twitch and wiggle making it appear to be live food, and then become consumed by another.

I also agree that leopard geckos, as well as many other reptile species, do not have any parental instincts to care for their young, and most certainly would eat them!
 
I wouldn't call it a common sense question seeing as how they are in captivity and some things change in them. For example their temperment, in the wild they are more agressive than in captivity... So i was just asking if their parenthood changed also. Im sure when you first started out you asked some questions that would seem commong sense to others. So don't you think your being a little bit of a hypocrite by saying my qusetion is common sense when you in fact didn't know it when no one told you or when you havn't expierenced it yet.

Thanks for all the replies though.
 
I'm sure she didnt mean it that way! I think she was pondering out loud on whether or not I was talking out my behind about leos eating their babies. And decidiing from her experience (not yours) that they probably would.
 
Actually Tyler,
I read every book I could find on them, searched the internet and read somemore. Then when I had a question I asked, but I made sure I couldn't find the answer already, or maybe I had but needed more opinions on something more in-depth that I couldn't find. I think just about everything you can read tells you NOT to do something like that with a two week old and a FULL GROWN ADULT. It is kinda like asking, gee can I keep my Leo with my Bearded or will they fight? Or can I keep two males together in the same tank?
Chances are you tell someone no they can't, but the kid will do it anyways. Then they come back on and ask why, when thy looked in the tank, there was only the adult with a really full belly?
These are living breathing creatures, and before you own one you should know things like this. And since you have hatchlings it sounds like you are breeding, and you didn't even know this? I could see if it was a question on how a mother's instinct may change in captivity and the effect caged life has on their mental process...yadda...yadda...but can I house a 2 week old with an adult?
Educate yourself first about these wonderful creatures before breeding another one. I guess I am just getting tired of seeing questions like these asked by people who actually have Leos already and have no idea what they are doing. You should know your general care BEFORE having one. Come on here to find out more in -depth things that others with a whole lot more experience can tell you.
 
Actually i havn't bred them yet and i dont have hatchlings. I pretty much knew the answer but i just wanted to clarify it. If you didnt like the question you really didnt have to post an answer. But i guess you can blow some steam off on this post because i've already got my answer and wont be looking at it unless a lot more replies come. But next time go to Kingsnake, it is a better place for that since they are all basically idiots. I mean come on the kid is giving advice and he cant even spell occasionally right? Instead he spells it ackasionly... I dont know about you but if he said that i dont know if i'd take his advice seriously.

But whatever thanks for clearing it up for me.
 
re tails

Golden Gate Geckos said:
... when hatchlings are housed in larger groups (especially in small enclosures), they will go into a 'feeding frenzy' and bite the tail of another one causing the gecko to autonomically drop it's tail....
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And another interesting yet creepy thing is this. One or two days later, the one who ate the tail has a suspicious growth spurt, quite noticeable. It's a bit creepy that they get such a nutritional boost from preying on each other, but that is Nature, I guess.
 
Well now we know how Ron got the famous "giant tremper" if you catch my drift... just kidding.
 
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