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I jsut switched from reptibark substrate to newspaper today. While it doesn't look as nice it seems to be popular here. I was wondering how many pieces of paper you use for those that do use it. I have about two layers right now. I consider one layer to be one piece equal to the size of the front page if you were to drop the paper and had to pick it up piece by piece.
 
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I actually cheat: I put down a bottom layer of newspaper, then I put down several layers of paper towels (usually 4-5 layers), then another newspaper on top. I find it's a lot more absorbent, so it prevents liquid portions of the waste from spreading all over the cage.

I should also not this is not my idea; it's from The Green Iguana Manual (the really, really thick iguana book you may have seen). So far I'm quite pleased with the results.

Henry
 
Ok. In the morning I will put down some more layers along with some paper towels.


Where should I put my probe? Closest to the UTH or closer to the surface? Will it make much of a difference?
 
Which is better newspaper or those huge rolls/sheets of paper? Since paper towels are more absorbant, why even put newspapers? Just curious, I plan to switch soon, so I gotta get my ?s out.
 
Regular kitchen-type paper towels are definitely the most absorbant, but they tend to bunch up. I tried them with some of my bigger snakes, and within a very short time they had them all balled up in the corner and were sitting (and pooping) on the bare bottom.

I like the fact that I can get pretty much all of the newspaper I want for free...but am thinking of trying those brown roll paper towels, like you find in the bathroom dispensers. I don't know if they would ball up as much as regular paper towels, but would still have more absorbancy than plain newspaper.....
 
Here's the scoop...

I use paper towels on my smaller ball pythons, hatchlings to about 400 grams. You can't beat paper towels for absorbency. For my bigger pythons, I was using newspapers with good results except that I had to tear and overlap several sheets to cover the entire bottom of a 3' cage. Plus, the newsprint ink would bleed out and "print" on the cage bottom when it got wet. So....I just switched to those big rolls of brown kraft paper last week. I got a 650' roll of 18" wide (60lb) paper for less than $20. That happens to be the width of my cages, so one long piece is all it takes! One roll is enough to cover about 216 cage bottoms one layer thick. The 60lb paper is about as thick as two or three sheets of newsprint. It seems to absorb better than newsprint too...maybe because newsprint has a very thin coating of something to keep the ink from bleeding out when it's printed. So far, I'm very happy with the results of the kraft paper.

Scott Nellis
 
Wow that stuff sounds awesome. No idea where to get it though. No idea what you are talking about actually. As of now I'm setup as follows:
1 layer newspaper
2 layers paper towels
2 or 3 more layers of paper towels.

Where should I put my probe? Under the paper towels or above? I was thinking under the last layer of newspaper I put down.

Also, how long is this newspaper good for? How long should I wait between changing it out? I also have easy access to LOTS of newspaper.
 
answers...

Newspaper is good indefinately if kept dry. Change it out when it gets defecated on or wet. Your idea of putting the temp probe under the last layer of paper is fine...one layer of newsprint is not going to alter the temps to any appreciable degree.

I got the roll of kraft (brown) paper from U-line.com. They sell shipping supplies and have a vast variety of paper products to use as cushioning in boxes. They have the brown kraft paper in widths from 12" to 48" and weights (thickness) from 30-60 lb. They also sell blank newsprint on rolls or in sheets in varying widths also. I got lucky and they have a warehouse in my city, so shipping was cheap.

Scott Nellis
 
What about low humidity levels? I'm trying to keep it around 50-60% but have had problems on my warm side. It will get down to 20% if I dont spray, which would get the newspaper wet.
 
Undercounter appliances?

I went to U-Line.com and it turns out they are an undercounter appliance company??
 
Well I have been sitting at 89% all day and temps couldn't be any better. I would never have believed it works this well.

Is 89% ok for my snake for a while? until it drops to 60s
 
oops...

Sorry about the U-line mixup. Yeah...Uline.com.

Couple of options on the humidity thing. You could place a water bowl fully or partially over the heat pad which would evaporate and increase the humidity, or you could put in a humid hide box. Personally, if I had trouble keeping the humidity up, I'd put in a humid hide box in addition to a regular hide box. Easy to make....just get a covered plastic shoe box, Cool Whip container with lid, or something similar of appropriate size, cut a hole in the lid, and put some damp spagnum moss inside (the long stem stuff, not the ground up garden additive stuff). Some people also use damp cypress mulch. Either one works well.

Yeah, you don't want to be misting newspaper. That just encourages mold growth.

Scott Nellis
 
What about HIGH humidity levels? yesterday it was stuck at 85% but I did some things and its closer to 60% now. I was just wondering what harm i could do to my snake with such high humidiy levels.
 
I think it would increase the risk of RI to have inappropriate humidity levels. Personally what I do first off to try to regulate humidity is to move the water dish around in respect to the source of heat as Scott said. To lower humidity, I don't really know, but you might try a heat lamp as opposed to UTH, instead of making water condense like a UTH sometimes will it would dry out the air I think. Maybe a dehumidifier, but that would probably be too extreme. I don't really know.

My cornsnakes are in a room that stays at approx 50-60%, but I'm sure it is slightly less in the cage due to heating. Does that sound right for a corn?
 
to lower humidity....

make sure the water bowl is off of the heat pad...as far away from the heat pad as possible. Other things to try are a smaller water bowl or a covered water bowl with a hole in the top just big enough for your snake to stick it's head in for drink. Also, a more open cage (i.e. screen top or more, bigger vents) will allow the humidity level to decrease.

Higher (or lower) humidity levels for a day or so will not harm your snake. It takes more than day or two of improper humidity levels to affect them (think of the humidity spikes in nature when it rains). Yes, prolonged improper humidity levels might cause a RI...but it would have to be on the order of a few weeks time. Too low a level will cause difficult and/or incomplete sheds.

I'm not certain of the recomended humidity levels for corn snakes, but since they are naturally found in the Eastern and Southeastern U.S., my guess is that they like it slightly higher. 50-60% sounds ok, but I'd check out several caresheets to get a good range estimate.

Scott Nellis
 
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