• Posted 12/19/2024.
    =====================

    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

    =====================
    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
  • Responding to email notices you receive.
    **************************************************
    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

Eastern kingsnake morphs

J

jtupper

Resident Demon
Resident Demon
Joined
Aug 15, 2009
Messages
53
Reaction score
0
Points
6
Location
Raleigh, NC, USA
One of my favorite snakes would have to be eastern/chain kings. Although they're probably tied with floridana.

I know there are some folks producing a few amels occasionally. But are there any other known morphs?

There's a dude on morph market selling "banana eastern kingsnake" but that's the first I've heard of them. So it got me thinking maybe there are a lot more out there?
 
When I lived in Maryland, I remember finding some gorgeous examples in Calvert county that were a beautiful blue black with yellow banding. They were much prettier than others I found elsewhere. Not sure how widespread the population of them was there, as I usually was on my way to look for coastal plain milks in St. Marys County, so I was just passing through Calvert. And, of course, that was a good 30 years ago.

I heard rumors of exceptionally wide banded eastern kings coming out of Tyrell County, North Carolina, but I was never fortunate enough to find any myself.

I'm guessing either form would be different enough looking to sport their own "cultivar" name if someone worked with them.
 
kings

Ya I wouldnt buy into any banana king stuff yet. There is a T- albino morph floating around but the genes are very weak and not many make it to breeding age. Ive had a T+ eastern but didnt get beyond hets. There are a couple of locales that produce morph type animals, Edisto Island SC and southern GA. These are called MOSAICS, and are the original MOSAICS, before Cal king and Florida king MOSAICS were produced. I dont know anyone currently working with them. Hold on, Jerry Kruse has some.
 
Last edited:
I believe it was a guy named Bob Fengya who told me about very broad banded eastern kings being found off of Caratoke HWY (route 158) in coastal North Carolina. I kicked around there a little bit, but never was able to find any. Didn't find ANY kings, btw, so I can't confirm that info either way. I honestly didn't look very hard, because every time I was in that area, I was actually on the way to the Outer Banks. I lived in Maryland at the time, btw.

And, of course, I kicked around on Hatteras and Okracoke looking for the chimera (IMHO)L. g. sticticeps. I did find a number of kings on Hatteras, however none of which looked like what sticticeps should look like. The original writeup by Barbour and Engle mentioned a number of characteristics about this animal which I am skeptical about. Besides the fact that that writeup was based on a single animal collected on Okracoke. One of the original characteristics identifying sticticeps was that it would not eat other snakes. I had some examples gotten from other people now and again, and I would dare anyone to throw a corn snake that they really wanted to keep in with any of them. Another identifying feature mentioned was that there were no other snakes to be found on Okracoke, but I certainly found a black racer there. So no, I am just not convinced.

Anyway, sorry about going somewhat off topic. :eek:
 
Ya, Im breeding some NICE Hatteras locales now and have been around stiticeps for decades and never once heard of that old wives tale. NO WAY would I trust that they dont eat other snakes, in my experience with insular snakes they can take extremely long between meals but once they are are ON they will eat anything.
 
I just laid my hands on the original publication I had in my bookcase concerning "Lampropeltis getulus sticticeps". Authors were Thomas Barbour and William L. Engels (not Engel). Title of the publication is "Proceedings of the New England Zoological Club, TWO INTERESTING NEW SNAKES. September 18, 1942. Vol XX, pp. 101-104.


Holotype. --M.C.Z., 46,469, from the Knoll, midway between Okracoke Inlet and Hatteras Inlet, Okracoke Island, North Carolina. Collected by W. L. Engels, 8th of June, 1941.

At first sight this might seem slender evidence for describing a new race, but the evidence that we deal here with a well-marked physiological form is so interesting that this fact alone would warrant its being named. For this snake, unlike all its allies, is not ophiophagous. Kept in captivity for a long time, as it was, it refused every sort of snake offered it for food and fed regularly on mice. Probably it was forced to do this on an island where, as far as is known, other snakes are absent and beach mice swarm. A glance at the figures will show how extraordinarily Pituophis-like if the head of our new form, and Pituophis, of course, is a rodent feeder. Whereas King Snakes normally twine about their prey, this snake has acquired the Coluber-like habit of seizing its prey and then dragging it to some position where it may be pressed to death with the body against some firmly set object. This its feeding habits are those of a Black Snake and not of a King Snake. This fact was confirmed by repeated experiments of the junior author.
Click to expand...

Not sure if this could be considered as an old wives' tale since this was the ORIGINAL description of the single specimen that spawned the name L. g. sticticeps. Perhaps this one specimen was the only one EVER to match that exact description.

The publication also describes a new rat snake they are calling "Elaphe quadrivitatta parallela". I did catch one rat snake on Hatteras Island, but honestly it didn't really catch my eye, so I just released it where I found it. It was a young specimen, and from what I remember it was gray colored, but I was searching for the elusive "sticticeps" and just didn't pay it much attention.

Anyway, FWIW.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top