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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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Can I REALLY Get In Trouble For This?

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So I lived up in Mojave as of yesterday, where I moved back down to OC, CA.

Anyway, long story short, i was renting a room from a lady who used to run a wolfdog rescue. Despite the fact that she never got in trouble, the neighbors always complained and called Animal Control and Sheriffs on her cause they thought "They're gonna eat me, my grandkids, and my dogs!!!"
This lady went as far as harrassing the dogs, throwing rocks at em, and shining car lights at em in our driveway just to get em to bark so she could call AC.

So I guess I moved out just in time. When I called them in Mojave to see how everything was, apparently AC had stopped by this morning cause someone complained about "30 geckos"... OH MY!!! What are 30 geckos really gonna do? Nuclear war comes... Radiates em... Turns em into weird things that wanna kill everything? Yeah ok...

Well, I left in time to make it seem like it was just a lie of retaliation on the wolfdog lady. AC was quite annoyed with all the BS they've been dealing with, with these stupid calls lately.

So my question is... Could I have gotten in trouble for anything? Do I need a breeders license or something to own crested geckos? I know people who have HUNDREDS of New Caledonian geckos and are never bothered.
Grant it, I got caught up in crap that I should've never even had to go through.

Has anyone else had this happen to them? Had I been there with my geckos still, what do you think would've happened?

I can't stop laughing at the stupidity to this especially since no one has seen my geckos up there. The wolfdog lady mentions every now and then that I breed and sell geckos to help promote selling for me, but other than that, no one went inside that house and actually SAW the geckos, so there was no room for complaint...
 
Umm, let me clarify this in case some members get confused:

This lady went as far as harrassing the dogs, throwing rocks at em, and shining car lights at em in our driveway just to get em to bark so she could call AC.
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By "this lady" I meant the neighbor.
 
So I am not 100% on this but my gut instinct says No, you could not get in any trouble. As long as the geckos were taken care of, fed, housed properly, ect. I do not believe you would have had anything to worry about. Though I guess it might depend on the state or city in question. Again I am not 100% sure, but for my sake I hope it is not illegal:rolleyes:
 
I've NEVER heard of crested geckos, and breeding em, being illegal anywhere. I've never heard of any complaints to the point where animal control has had to be brought in! I mean, excluding obvious cases where animals were dying or really emaciated or something. But my guys are healthy and active and eat regularly and fine.

I know it was an attempt to try to screw the wolfdog lady over (Though it would've been ME being screwed), but still... How stupid can you get??
 
Funny part is, after AC was done at her place, she said she was gonna go and put a stop to this BS calls that are going on. Last time Sheriffs were called (They got sick of the stupid pathetic complaints when there was no problem. They had come out for about 2 weeks straight, every.single.day) they told the neighbor to just call a supervisor cause those guys were tired of coming out lol.

I didn't think I could get in trouble but I was curious about it. I wonder what she would've said had I been there with them and she saw there was no problems. Probably still just be pissed for a BS call lol.
 
You'd be surprised....even if there aren't local ordinances against the specific animals, the you could potentially face a hassle about humane housing (it's been done because snakes were kept in racks) or animal hoarding. If there are regulations regarding breeding, business operations, etc that you aren't in compliance with, those would add some weight to the other things. Unfortunately, the first ones are very subjective, and an ACO that isn't reptile tolerant can give headaches once something like that is reported.
I know of one small town that basically banned reptiles as pets after a phobic ACO had to deal with a coldblooded escapee.
 
Wow that sucks!
I'm glad I got out of there just in time then, just in case she was some gecko-phobe for whatever reason :rolleyes:

I think I'm going to look up the laws up in that county for the heck of it. I never thought there were really places where reptiles were banned!
 
You might need a business license to sell, a reptile specific license to breed or a license to own a specific species, or any reptile.... depending on your location.

Many places require a license to sell any live animal of any species. You'd have to check your federal, state, county, city laws and ordinances.
 
I'll check em in OC then too as well, since I just came back down here but I know several breeders here and they've never mentioned needing licenses. I don't think ACO get called out for reptiles in this area much anyway when they've done nothing to harm anyone (Excluding cases where there are escapees)

I'll double check though and make sure everything is clear here as well :)
 
not to sure about the laws around you are but i know here its something like if you are planning to sell them then you need a license if you are selling more than twenty geckos a year or if you are selling more than $500 bucks worth a year, other wise selling a gecko here or there for 50 bucks shouldnt be a problem.
 
if you can purchase them from mom & pop shops or huge name chain corporate stores I'm sure you don't need a license.Just amke sure their conditions are correct.
 
But don't mom and pop shops have their own licenses and permits as well, allowing them to sell the animals?
 
I tried to get a business license because I have a dogsitting business in my home. I learned that in St. Louis, there's no such thing for a home-based business. But they said the only time people get shut down is when they cause too much noise, or too much traffic. The 2 really bad things they can do for a bunch of well-cared-for geckos is either enforce the 'too many pets' law, or report you to the IRS. Geez, I hope the government has better things to do than monitor the tens of dollars I'm making on geckos.

Noelle
 
Right? I'm lucky if I sold any up in the desert before I moved anyway lol. We had a population of about 7k people and I was smack dab in the middle of no where - 30 miles from the closest city!! lol Like anyone wants to drive out that far :p
Even down in the city its not like I make a killing off my babies. WOW! $25 5 times a year!!! I made a whole $125 this year!!! lol
 
But then again I can see the gov's issue with privately selling. Its money you aren't paying taxes on so OF COURSE they'll get themselves involved at some point!! They don't like you hiding "their" money ya know ;D haha
 
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