How are the rest of you creating and maintaining brumation conditions for your king/milk/cornsnakes. What methods do you use?
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Brumation Methods Requested
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I have a cool room, which is basically an unused room of the house which has an electic heater in it.
I set the heater to 55 degrees and put all the colubrids and anything else needing those winter time temps in there for brumation.
Where I used to live I used a spare half bathroom. We gave up use of that bathroom for 3 months a year for brumation. It was more tedious, since there was no heater. I had to monitor the temperature in there a few times a day and allow warm air from the house in to keep them from getting too cool.
Fortunately colubrids are far from exact in their brumation requirements.
Living in Montana, you shouldn't have any problem getting them cool enough. You will most likely have to heat the cool area to keep them from getting too cool.
I set the heater to 55 degrees and put all the colubrids and anything else needing those winter time temps in there for brumation.
Where I used to live I used a spare half bathroom. We gave up use of that bathroom for 3 months a year for brumation. It was more tedious, since there was no heater. I had to monitor the temperature in there a few times a day and allow warm air from the house in to keep them from getting too cool.
Fortunately colubrids are far from exact in their brumation requirements.
Living in Montana, you shouldn't have any problem getting them cool enough. You will most likely have to heat the cool area to keep them from getting too cool.
Clay Davenport said:
Freezing solid you mean?
Yeah, that too. There's a reason I don't live in Montana
Sasheena
Imperfect
ON Thanksgiving I give them their last meal for the year, two weeks later I cart them out to the garage and put them on a shelf. Check periodically to make suer they have water, and wake them up on Valentines day to get them back in "the mood".
Sometimes the garage gets pretty cool. Mostly it's in the 60's or so possibly warmer... hard to get a good brumation temp here in AZ, but the snakes still produce!
Sometimes the garage gets pretty cool. Mostly it's in the 60's or so possibly warmer... hard to get a good brumation temp here in AZ, but the snakes still produce!
I brumate mine in the cupboard area under my sink. It stays around 50 - 60 down there all winter. Those wireless thermometers are the coolest. I can monitor the temp down there from the comfort of the living room.
SCReptiles
Venomous keeper/breeder
In times past I have used 55 as the mark when I cooled my pit vipers and my colubrids, but this year I have added some boas and pythons to my collection. What I am looking to do it cool the native stuff just enough to spark the slow cycle and use heat tape and ceramic heat emitters to keep the exotics at the low end of their needed temps. What do you think would be the highest temp at which the natives would still cycle down? A biologist I know in south FL suggested 70 as the max…just looking for other inputs.
It would depend a lot on the species involved. Some species would do fine with warmer cooling temps, but for others, such as mountain kings, 55 would be the upper end to begin with.
I personally try to use 65 as a maximum for everything other than montane species or species from the extreme northern ranges, and 50-60 as my preferred range, 55 being ideal.
On the same hand, some people breed corns with no brumation at all. My experience has shown better results with brumation, but there are breeders who don't bother with certain species.
I remember one winter we had several years ago that was particularly mild. Days in January with highs in the mid 70s, and spans of 2-3 weeks where daytime highs didn't get below 65. Brumation was tough that year because I depend on cold weather to brumate my snakes. The following season was the worst season I ever had with the colubrids. High infertility rates, problems getting breeding activity. I hatched around 30-40% of the eggs laid that year.
I personally try to use 65 as a maximum for everything other than montane species or species from the extreme northern ranges, and 50-60 as my preferred range, 55 being ideal.
On the same hand, some people breed corns with no brumation at all. My experience has shown better results with brumation, but there are breeders who don't bother with certain species.
I remember one winter we had several years ago that was particularly mild. Days in January with highs in the mid 70s, and spans of 2-3 weeks where daytime highs didn't get below 65. Brumation was tough that year because I depend on cold weather to brumate my snakes. The following season was the worst season I ever had with the colubrids. High infertility rates, problems getting breeding activity. I hatched around 30-40% of the eggs laid that year.