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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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Bad Guy Andrew Martinez and Ashlie Lynn Amian - ANIMAL ABUSE

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My partner Aiden Simon and I were vending at the Reptile Breeder's Show in Lodi this weekend, where I ended up being part of a run-in with these extremely unpleasant, shameless animal abusers.

Many vendors and attendees at the show witnessed part or all of this interaction, and I've asked a couple to come in and add their thoughts. If you were there, please feel free to add.

Note: After the confrontation had ended, the couple in question were positively identified as Andrew Martinez and Ashlie Lynn Amian by Misfit Petz, who had (unpleasant!) in-person dealings with them in the past. When I looked them up on Facebook, their photos matched the people I saw today.

We first knew of a problem when he "Zoo to You" presentation was interrupted with this announcement: "there is a white car in the parking lot that has been left in the sun with 3 small dogs in it. You have two minutes to get your dogs or we will break your window."

Eventually, Naomi Abdaljawad of GBU Enterprises and two of her helpers recovered 3 animals -- a female short-haired Chihuahua, a male wire-haired Chihuahua mix, and a wire-haired Chihuahua mix puppy about 2.5-3 months old.

My personal observations of the dogs are as follows:

The female initially appeared geriatric, due to emaciation and disorientation. She was hot to the touch and appeared to be on the verge of heat stroke. Her body score was 2 on a 1-9 score; her hip bones, spine, and ribs were visible to the eye and prominent to the touch. Upon closer inspection, she appears to have recently weaned a litter, so she is likely the puppy's mother. Her claws were also extremely overgrown, with the rear dewclaws in nearly complete circles growing back into the foot. Oddly for all of this, she had a brand new collar and leash.

The male was fearful, cowering, trembling, and whimpering. He refused water from a bowl, but eventually licked water from my fingers. His body condition was 4, which is healthy. I did not observe if he was neutered or not. His leash and collar were old and tattered.

The puppy looked nearly identical to the male and is likely his offspring. The puppy refused all water, but otherwise seemed healthy. The puppy had no collar or leash.

The animals were circulated around the show in the arms of employees of GBU and Misfit Petz, but no one claimed them. (None of the dogs had ID tags0

After about an hour, a police officer arrived, ran the car's plates, and had the owner paged. A few minutes later, a young man left the building carrying the puppy and leading the adult dogs out into the parking lot. The animals were not taken into Animal Control custody, and there was no evidence of a citation issued.

I followed him out and saw the officer drive off. I heard a car door slam, and saw the dogs' owner start heading back towards the expo hall. I informed GBU he had left the dogs in the car again and was coming back in. Two male employees of GBU and Misfit Petz confronted him and escorted him back to his car, and several other folks and I followed.

The woman had apparently gone to the car some time after the plate announcement, and was behind the wheel. After the man jumped in, she gunned the engine, swerved toward us, hurled a full cup of soda out the window at us, and screeched out of the parking lot.

The owners, Andrew and Ashlie, had been in the expo the entire time and did not acknowledge the dogs as theirs until the officer arrived. They were in the expo for least an hour and a half total, haggling over reptiles. They ignored the announcement and ignored their dogs being carried around and taken care of by others. The high in Lodi today was 82 degrees and the car was in full sun. If the dogs had not been spotted and rescued, they would have been dead by the time they had left the show--the interior of that car would have been nearly 100 in a mere 10 minutes.

On top of the flagrant abuse of their dogs, this couple is already making a poor reputation for themselves in the reptile industry. They present themselves as a reptile "rescue" (with no name, contact information, or business page), take in surrenders, buy or trade for cheap animals, and then turn around and re-sell them on Craigslist and Facebook, often outright lying about the origins and history of the animal. They have already been banned from several local reptile sale groups for this. Their ads on Craigslist (with his name in them) are pretty regularly flagged, so none are up at the moment, but I'll be watching for them to post.

As mentioned, Karen and John Mendoza of Misfit Petz also had a bad experience with this couple last year. Karen will post about that herself, but it involves an animal Ashlie claims is a firefly, and Misfit claims is a pastel. I saw the animal in question today, and it is absolutely a pastel of barely average quality.

Don't sell to these people, don't trade with them, don't let them in your stores or your shows. We don't need that kind of thing in our hobby.

Except for the chart, the photos below are all saved from these individuals' public Facebook pages.

1 - Andrew and Ashlie
2 - a dog that appears to be the female Chihuahua from today
3 - dog body score index
 

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I'm the one who saw them in the car when i was headed out. Thanks to gbu and misfits, you guys did great.
 
I'm the one who saw them in the car when i was headed out. Thanks to gbu and misfits, you guys did great.

Thank YOU for taking the time to come in and let Naomi know. I really don't think those pups would have survived much longer if you hadn't.
 
I wish the owners had received a citation, and based on what you have written, I don't think that they deserve to have those dogs.
Thank you for posting this Diana.
 
It's really sad that the police can not do anything until after something bad has happened. When you pulled the dogs out you saved them from receiving animal cruelty charges.
 
This kind of thing makes me so sick! My dog is probably the closest thing I will ever come to having a kid he's a member of my family and treated like a king(king is also his name) and that even after this whole thing these dirty ppl get to keep the dogs and not even cited! Why is it an animal has to pretty much die for anything to be done? Respect to all of the ppl who went out your way to help these dogs. I'm so sorry for those poor dogs who after all this are back with those ppl. I really hope something will come of this before those poor dogs end up dead! Thank you for posting this so those ppl can be avoided
 
In the SADLY UNLIKELY event there actually is justice for those poor dogs please keep us informed I would like to know how it plays out for the dogs
 
It's really sad that the police can not do anything until after something bad has happened. When you pulled the dogs out you saved them from receiving animal cruelty charges.

I find it difficult to believe that the police are unable to do anything if the dogs are in distress. I work at an emergency and critical care vet hospital, and we sometime have police bring in dogs from hot cars and other situations. They (the PD) even bill the owners for the care.:D Here in OK where animals are still legally considered "property", in the end nothing will happen to the pet owners and they will likely get their pets back, but at least there's some intervention.

It really is too bad you can't keep stupid people from keeping animals. And it's unbelievable that people can't comprehend there's a difference between leaving a healthy dog in car with the windows half down for 10 minutes or less while you gas up when it's 82˚F outside, VS leaving them in a car with the windows up for hours.
 
I find it difficult to believe that the police are unable to do anything if the dogs are in distress.
They certainly can. But here, I believe it was said that the police did not arrive until later, when the dogs were out of the car.
 
They certainly can. But here, I believe it was said that the police did not arrive until later, when the dogs were out of the car.

Nonetheless, they could/should have had them vet checked if they had indeed been in Heat Stress as the effects last long after the body has returned to normal temp. Guess no one was there to tell them that:mah:

I also had a thought- maybe they made a deal with the two people in question, not to cite them if they agreed not to press charges against the good samaritans who broke into the car!
 
First of all, I didn't leave the dogs in the car the "second time" my fiance was in the car with them. And secondly we came from San Jose to visit my grandma who has fucking stage cancer that just spread to her liver. So on the way back we wanted to make a quick stop at the show. We were there for more then two hours. We gave the dogs water and took them out to pee. I did not hear an announcement neither did she. And just because misfit pets and us had a ordeal already doesn't make it right them to bash our names like that. Yea we had dogs in the car ,but we made sure they were okay before going back in to talk to a breeder about some leopard geckos. There was even a family that saw us out there on the grass, and another lady pulled up behind our car when we were giving them water. In misfits statement they said that went around the asking if they new the dogs. If that's the case then why didn't we know about it. No one asked us. I didn't see the dogs with them. And let's make one thing clear, my dogs are not neglected! Neither are any of our reptiles.The bigger female is going on 10 years old, she did not have puppies. I can't believe on the comments that's we have been getting. We are not bad people. We feed our animals first before we feed our self. Like my fiance said everyone has an opinion and we can't change that. So for all those people who think we should have gotten written up and everything. All I have to say is, okay you win. All we wanted was to be like all of you. We love all of our reptiles just as much as the next person. We have been trying to make a name for our self in the reptile world. Even though we didn't like the people at misfit pets, we stayed away. Didn't confront them didn't try to cause any trouble. And for them to say I lied about the origin of the rescue or surrender is falls. The Savannah that we traded was never posted as a rescue or surrender. Although another animal on that same posting was. But anyways you guys get what you want. You never see us again. Good Luck to all of you.

Andrew Martinez
 
The car window was not actually broken, Naomi was able to reach her hand in the cracked window and pop the lock.
 
I was the one that made the post, not Misfitz, by the way. I have never met you in person and had little opinion of you until yesterday. An announcement was made, the dogs were removed, a note was left on your windshield at that time. If you had checked on the dogs at any time during the intervening hour, you would have seen it. Even an hour is far too long in summer heat. And plenty of witnesses will vouch for hearing the pa, seeing the dogs carried around, and the condition they were in. Every last one of them was minutes from heat stroke. There is no excuse for dogs in a car for "just" two hours in 80+ degree weather.
 
Also, since you got "entirely out of reptiles" back in December because your fiance made you get rid of them, but have built back up a collection all over again since then? I don't believe a word of it. We expect you to pop back up in a few months, and we will be watching for you. I was genuinely concerned your chihuahua was going to die in my arms until I got her cooled and rehydrated. That is unforgiveable.
 
We had the dogs for almost half an hour before the officer arrived. During that time of day and the given temperature thes guys would probably have been dead. You did not even know your dogs were not in the car. When the officer finally found you and asked you where were your dogs you replied "in the car".
 
We were not there for more then two hours

The point is that 2 hrs in a hot car is too much, especially for an old dog or a puppy. I get that you were away from home and had no place to drop off the dogs- what that means is get your priorities in order. Grow up and skip the expo next time, or better yet, board the dogs while you go on your trip.
 
I am adding my experience as a vet tech to say that after an hour in that heat (I was at the show) the dogs would have likely been dead if they'd been left in the car. Dogs can die after just half an hour on a hot day. That you think it's okay to leave them like that is atrocious and most definitely neglectful, especially if the physical condition of the dogs is as stated.
 
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