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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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Steps To Become Fedex Certified!!!

Brian Oakley

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Ok, this is what you need to do.

First you have to set up an acct with FedEx. This costs you nothing. It can be done on line or by phone. It is easier and quicker online (I would think anyway) since you do not have to hold and have people asking you to repeat something.

Go to http://fedex.com/us/ and click on the link on the left hand side near the top where it says 'opening an acct'. Go through the steps from there. **by setting up an acct. you get free labels etc. You can have them pre-printed with your shipping info, I received mine the other day.
AFTER 24 hours (takes that long to process it and make it 'live')
After you do the above things you will then need to call 1-800-GOFEDEX (4633339) and ask customer service to have your account representative call you. This can take anywhere between a few hours to 48 hours. While you are waiting you can go to http://fedex.com/us/services/express/packaging/tips.html, scroll down towards the bottom and click on a link that says 'complete this form' under the heading "Packaging Testing or Evaluation". This is the form you will have to print and fill out to send with your package.
Now, with all that said, you probably could skip the call to the sales rep. and just print the form and send it in. The Packaging Department did not know I was sending in a package. The only valuable info I got from the sales rep. was the account number (theirs) in which to bill the shipping sharges to.
**Sorry, I will not give that number out, it is not my place to do so**

I then sent the package to the Packaging Design and Development department (address is on the bottom of the page you will be printing out. I sent it out last Friday (6 days ago) and I got the box back (you can request on the form to have the box sent back) with the current paperwork I have on Tuesday.
It then tells you to call you local acct. rep (follow the above steps with 800 number) to have them send you the legal paperwork.
This will be a contract between you and FedEx regarding your shipping live harmless reptiles/animals. I picture that I will have to fill it out/sign it and fax/mail it back to them. At that point you should be good to go unless they give you any other instructions.
Some key numbers you might want:
Package Design and Development Dept.- 1-800-633-7019. This is if you have any questions of them.
Live Animal Desk- 1-800-405-9052 This is just for you to have. They really did not help me any as they sent me, at that point, to their legal department. In fact, they told me that exceptions are not made and only ship horses and animals for zoos.
Legal Department- 901-434-8494 The contact I used was James Brown. He was good to answer some questions I had.

**When shipping the box to the Package and Design Dept., you want to ship just like you would when you send a snake. Include everything right down to the deli cup or snake bag.....just no snake of course**

I hope this helps you all. Take advantage of this. This is the best way, so far, that we reptile/amphibian breeders have in order to ship our 'goods' without being denied the service. It might sound complicated, but it really is easy.

Best of luck to you all!
 
One little addition to Brian's post. FedEx recommends that you re-package your test box inside another box for shipping to the test lab. This way, you can potentially avoid any damage to your box on the way there. Just label the outside of the repack box: "Test Inner Box" so that they know what's going on.

I just sent mine off yesterday.

Thank you Brian for a very helpful post.
 
Step one~ check

I've never shipped a snake, I have never shipped anything Fed-Ex......but now I have an account. I'll move to step two Friday or Monday.

Thanks~ I never would have worked up the nerve to actually try this without y'all doing it first and blazing the bath!
 
My test package went out today. I am sure the testing lab is beginning to wonder what is going on with a steady stream of reptile related packaging coming in daily.

This could very well be a major turning point in favor of the growth of the reptile industry as a whole.

It's kind of fun to be part of the first wave.

Thanks again to the first few who broke trail for us all.
 
Just to add to this, like Rich mentioned to me in an email. Once you complete the above steps, that does NOT mean you are done. Like it mentioned, you still have to get the paperwork (contract) and complete that.

I like the idea of putting the 'shipping' box insode another box. I was not told to do so, nor did I do it.

This thread will eventually be put up on the Shipping Forum, per Rich as that is where hewould like it to go.
 
Can't Agree More

I just got off the phone with our local representative and she couldn't have been more pleasant. She is emailing me our application as I type this and gave me all the info about sending out a test box.

I'd like to thank those here at fauna for breaking the ice on this shipping issue. For the first time we have a method to ship our snakes legitimally with-out having to spend $100 with the airlines.

This is a huge step in our favor. My local rep said that James Brown has been getting swamped with phone calls concerning shipping reptiles. Lets keep it up guys, the more that call the more respect our industry gains as a legitimate source of business for FedEx.
 
process to begin shortly

Since we haven't really had to ship anything in the past couple of years due to re-directing efforts here, I finally got an order out a little bit ago to Daniel at Scales for shipping supplies. As soon as those arrive here then I will be sending out our test package.

Spoke to our acct. rep this morning and he seemed really enthusiastic, especially when he realized that all reptile shipments would be by Overnight Express and that they would mean a lot more revenue for the company. Seemed excited that this is an effort across the nation to unite a huge number of reptile people under 1 shipping comany that wants to accomodate them. And he admitted to not being a fan of snakes due to growing up in an area of the south where he and his family had too much contact with venomous species, though he did think that lizards and turtles were pretty much fine in his book.

Anyway, the ball is rolling from coast to coast and it looks and sounds grand. Kudos to those who went before and made this all possible.

David
 
Thank you

I've set up my account & ordered the labels. I'll be switching from Airborne or DHL, lol.


Thanks for all the info.
Joel Roberts
 
I just Shipped a Lizard to Miami from NV**

Here is what happened. I marked it please keep 65-75 F (live harmless baby lizard) I shipped it using my account. they accepted the box no problems at the Fedex terminal directly behing the Airport. Next day by 10:30 am. 3lbs. cost me over $40.00 had (1) 20 hr and (1) 40 hr. heatpack. Thank God, I added the 40 hr. they lost the box at thier Memphis Tenn. Terminal. called all the way up the ladder even spoke to James Brown. whom said we don't ship animals/reptiles. I told them that's strange all the other carriers ship tortoises, lizards fish, or all of the abo ve. UPS, USPS, Airborne. So I spoke to a lady whom said they do accept reptiles. But have no guarantee. etc. they can only refund my shipping Cost. (anyway I rec'd a Blue Cayman/ Cross. Father came from Blair. via USPS. I called my local P.O. for my zipcode. and asked them to hold their and call me. So I ended up calling in b4 they were able to call me and it was sitting on a Nice Lady's desk. And she told me to ask for her. I showed my I.D. picked up my Lizard. and it cost less to than 1/2 the price of Fedex.) Fedex agreed to try and get the pkg to Miami
the following day by 8am. Per fedex tracking it left Tenn. at 3:25pm. So I assume it's on the way to Miami now.
** The post office on the other hand, will allow you to insure the animal etc. So maybe you folks may want to speak to the proper folks at USPS.***With Fedex, You are on your own it looks like. I never had a problem b4 with Fedex shipping other items, until I marked a Box ( Live Harmless Lizard ) coincidence?? Your guess is as good as mine*********Well that's my 2 cents and Feb 18th shipping experience. I have used UPS, Airborne in the past. No issues with UPS. Airborne toss of the coin. mostly good. but there official book only allows Tortoises, go figure.
 
If I may respond to this.
First, it is very difficult to request something to be kept at a certain temp. That is why it is up to US to add heat or cold packs to our shipments. I am surprised you would request this knowing that these warehouses that shipments go through, at times and places, are not that warm or even that cool depending on the place. I guarantee you, even with a/c, that some types of warehouses they have here in Phx. would cook a lizard.
Second, I am glad that it turned out for you when using/dealing with USPS, but the same thing has happened to people with their services as well and end result could have been that FedEx did a great job. This is something that was brought up early on in the discussions about shipping. It is the risk we take when shipping live animals.
Third, you are correct, FedEx will not guarantee the life or well being of the animal being shipped. I know for a fact that this will be clearly stated in the contract I sign with FedEx when i get it.
Forth, just because other companies ship turts/torts/lizards does not mean they all have to. That is the policy that the (any of them) company inforces and I as well as others have to respect that.

I think the bottom line is, and this is just a general statement, that we need to be profession, tret people like professionals, if what we want in return is to be respected as a whole, community of professionals.

Just my thoughts!

Glad your Cayman made it safely and I hope the lizard gets to Miami ok!
 
Brian - Good point

Everything you stated makes alot of sense to me. And Thanks, I hope the makes it OK tomorrow as well.
 
The coincidence factor

I have been using Airborne for about a year now. Now I haven't had any problems while shipping Lizards but once I started sending snakes, hmmmm???.
I have heard a ton of horror stories with Airborne & snakes, but very few, with lizards.
I wonder if they are scanning them, & when they see it's a snake, they treat it in a different manner? Kind of like saying "we'll show them"

With that said,, Have you done the "contract" for shipping live animals? Perhaps that's why Mr. Brown said no animals?

Brian is totally right,, we do need to act professional & treat people professionally. It will only take a few bad apples to screw this up. lol
Also keep in mind, they ship thousands! of things a day & things will be misplaced from time to time & just because ours are live, that doesn't void ours from the mishaps.

Also,,, I do personally know a guy who must save the couple $$ and uses the US postal service. Every single time he has shipped, they have been 2- 3 days LATE! I'm sorry, but that is just not worth the risk to me. Especially when your sending out animals in the $1700. range. lol I would like to see an insurance claim paid in that amount.

Just my 2 cents.
 
You are correct, Joel. THings willbe late form time to time, just the way it goes.
I SWEAR by Delta, but I have had thigs late with them before as well. I shipped out a boa a couple months ago. It was sent Dash, not only did it not make the flight it was supposed to be on, it missed the next one as well. It DID get there the same day, but my customer had to sit at the airport for an additional 3 hours to wait for each flight in case it showed up on one of them. FRUSTRATING? Yes. Does it happen? To ALL carriers!

The answer is, ship it the best way you can. Use the smallest (as mentioned) box you can that will still be safe so the snake is not crammed in there and can still move a bit if it is in a bag. Deli Cups or that style of sup (even if bigger in size) if the best way. You can ship more snakes in a organized manner in a smaller area than one might with the same number of snakes in bags.
 
I have been a UPS shipper and have been fairly satisfied with the service provided. However, I am more than willing to switch to Fed Ex if they are actually making an effort to get the reptile business.

One of my first UPS shipments was returned to me with little warning. I was at work and checked the status of my shipment on their website only to see "returned to sender". This was a major hassle as I had to leave work to avoid having the package sit in the sun all day (it was summer). When I received the package I found it was returned due to "no air holes". I use very well insulated boxes and hate the thought of ruining that level of insulation by poking holes through the sides. I know there is enough air in the box to keep a small reptile alive for a week or more. Since they provide no guarantee of live arrival, I want to package the animal in the manner I know offers the most protection.

When you provided a sample box to Fed Ex, did you have holes poked through the walls?

Bob Garby
 
Make sure you all read your fed ex contract very closely, You are signing away all your rights to ANY reimbursement from them... Say goodbye to, getting your money back for late packages, Claiming anything that is lost stolen or destroyed even if its insured, and make sure you have your pricing guide set up before you start shippping... We got stuck with over $4,000 in over billing due to lies from our account rep and delays... Just a heads up on the headaches we encountered about 4 months ago during this pioneer period.... Most reps do not know these accounts even exist... Also Be prepared to have your customers demand their money back for shipping even though you will not get it back, cause the customer service 800 # for fed ex will say they give you your money back cause they do not know what is in your contract


Alfredo Veloso
 
Unclear of what happen?

"We got stuck with over $4,000 in over billing due to lies from our account rep and delays"

Alfredo can you please explain this better?

Thanks
Joel Roberts
 
We were promised a discounted rate due to our obvious volume discount... Wewere approved for the account 30-40 days after we opened it... Once we started shipping our bills started coming in billed at full price, no discount whatso ever... My rep told me she was working hard to get me the best rate and not to worry about it... 1 month went by almost 2 before I went over her head and called her boss... Had my rates the next day but I was SOL to all of the previous bills... WHich is BS but sometime you have let it go as we have no Other option (at the Moment) for shipping...


Alfredo Veloso
 
average cost?

So what is the average? As Airborne is between $35 - $50. What is FedEx?

Also, once you get your rates, do they have all the hidden extras like Airborne?

Thanks.
Joel
 
Rates

Hi,

I am planning on setting up an account with FedEx and had a question.

After you set up an account to ship reptiles are the rates the same ?

Thanks,

TK
 
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