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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.

Patternless Northern Pine?

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Hello All,
I posted this on the Kingsnake forum and haven't rececive a response so I thought I would see if you guys can help me out. A few weeks ago, I was at the local swap meet and came across a seller with several subadult and adult pits. These sellers are always there but I have never bought anything from them. Well, the pits drew my attention, so I went over and started looking at them. There were patternless,ones and a couple that looked "leucistic" but without the black eyes. I assumed they were all southern pines. I was talking to the sellers about them, and they told me various things about each one. I ended up purchasing a nice yearling female of the "leucistic" type. She has a really nice rose hue to her, but no pattern at all, and her eyes appear to be white.

Well, I went back to the swap this past weekend to see if they had any pits left and they did. As I was looking at them, I saw the label said Patternless Northern Pines. Well, I wondered if they had just made an error, and I was told that they were indeed Northerns and not Southerns as I had originally thought. They told me that they have never kept Southerns. They said that their adult female that produced most of the subadults and adults that they had available was around 14 years old. Could it be possible that these are pure Northerns? Is there any way, I could tell if my "leucistic" female is a Northern, Southern, or integrade? Any help would be greatly appreciate. Thanks.

Take care,
Jeff Port
 
For some reason, I think patternless Northerns are actually Northern X Southern hybrids. I believe there has never been a pure patternless Northern found in the wild, so they were created by breeding the patternless Southerns into them. I'm not positive about this at all. Just repeating something I seem to remember reading, and seconding thoughts you already mentioned. Hopefully someone more expert in pits can give a better answer. Just trying to give you something to go on, somewhat.
 
Hey Ryan,
Thanks for the input. I actually found an article in the January 1995 issue of Reptiles Magazine about the first known Patternless Northerns produced from unknown het siblings. Interesting article. Would like to hear from others on this though. Thanks again.

Take care,
Jeff Port
 
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