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[This guy name chris sulwer ripped me off for some tokay gecko .I send him $200 dollors for 15 geckos and he said he send me 12 ,then told me he would send the rest in a few days and it never happen.It bine around 2-3 weeks and nothing yet.Out of the 12 he send me 6 died in a weeks time.Everytime I email tells me the samething I got you I will send them out TOMORROW!!!Ya ok tomorrow has bine weeks and still nothing!!!


Here is all the info he use's !!!!!

Chris sulwer
5591 65th terrace
Pinellas Park, FL 33781
727 546 7852


Be careful he has a few things on kingsnake and belive me he will rip you off!!!!Here are the links!!

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=8&de=671390
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=14&de=671344
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http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=68&de=668388
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=14&de=667044

Hey good luck selling the rest of your stuff!!!:shootfoot
 
Please post your emails and his in their entirety.
Here some of the emails that I send him and he send me.

i can do 15 shipped to your door fedex overnight. please let me know soon. im down to 20. if you wat them let me know ill put them in reserve and mark as sold.!!!!! my paypal is [email protected] http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt57/killerfrogss/DSC_0002.jpg
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http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt57/killerfrogss/DSC_0006-1.jpg


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Hey can y send some pics of the tokay geckos and how many can y do for $200 shipped to philadelphia pa 19124.Thanks Joel

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Hey bud were you able to get those 3 geckos out yet .Just keep me up to date so I can be home when they come.Thanks Joel


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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:43:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Message about: geckos,Marbled,Panther,Tokay,White-Line (Skunk).
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

there on thew way


On 25/02/2009, Joel Adorno <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey bud were you able to ship the geckos out today?If not please let me know so I can do the things I have to do in the morning.Later bud


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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:10:08 -0500

Subject: Re: Message about: geckos,Marbled,Panther,Tokay,White-Line (Skunk).
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

yeah sure.


On 24/02/2009, Joel Adorno <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey am the one that bougth the 15 geckos ...Here is all my info.

Joel Adorno
854 Anchor street
Philadelphia pa 19124

phone:267-506-3963

By the way bud its pretty cold out here if you can put some heat pads that would be great.Thanks Joel




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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:41:50 -0500

Subject: Re: Message about: geckos,Marbled,Panther,Tokay,White-Line (Skunk).
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

727 546 7852 call quick i got to leave, or leave your number ill call you back.


On 24/02/2009, Joel Adorno <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey do you have a phone number I can call you at.To ask you few questions about them.Thanks Joel


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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:28:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Message about: geckos,Marbled,Panther,Tokay,White-Line (Skunk).
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]


i can do 15 shipped to your door fedex overnight. please let me know soon. im down to 20. if you wat them let me know ill put them in reserve and mark as sold.!!!!! my paypal is [email protected] http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt57/killerfrogss/DSC_0002.jpg
http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt57/killerfrogss/DSC_0003.jpg
http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt57/killerfrogss/DSC_0006-1.jpg


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Hey can y send some pics of the tokay geckos and how many can y do for $200 shipped to philadelphia pa 19124.Thanks Joel

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dont have them yet i got you dont worry.


On 04/03/2009, Joel Adorno <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey bud were you able to get those 3 geckos out yet .Just keep me up to date so I can be home when they come.Thanks Joel


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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:43:12 -0500

Subject: Re: Message about: geckos,Marbled,Panther,Tokay,White-Line (Skunk).
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

there on thew way


On 25/02/2009, Joel Adorno <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey bud were you able to ship the geckos out today?If not please let me know so I can do the things I have to do in the morning.Later bud


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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:10:08 -0500

Subject: Re: Message about: geckos,Marbled,Panther,Tokay,White-Line (Skunk).
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

yeah sure.


On 24/02/2009, Joel Adorno <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey am the one that bougth the 15 geckos ...Here is all my info.

Joel Adorno
854 Anchor street
Philadelphia pa 19124

phone:267-506-3963

By the way bud its pretty cold out here if you can put some heat pads that would be great.Thanks Joel




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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:41:50 -0500

Subject: Re: Message about: geckos,Marbled,Panther,Tokay,White-Line (Skunk).
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

727 546 7852 call quick i got to leave, or leave your number ill call you back.


On 24/02/2009, Joel Adorno <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey do you have a phone number I can call you at.To ask you few questions about them.Thanks Joel


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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:28:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Message about: geckos,Marbled,Panther,Tokay,White-Line (Skunk).
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]


i can do 15 shipped to your door fedex overnight. please let me know soon. im down to 20. if you wat them let me know ill put them in reserve and mark as sold.!!!!! my paypal is [email protected] http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt57/killerfrogss/DSC_0002.jpg
http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt57/killerfrogss/DSC_0003.jpg
http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt57/killerfrogss/DSC_0006-1.jpg


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Hey can y send some pics of the tokay geckos and how many can y do for $200 shipped to philadelphia pa 19124.Thanks Joel

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take it easy, im sorry i didnt mean to ignore you. i just forgot. give me a day or two , so i can accsess my paypa;l account its in my wifes name and shes gone a few days. its all good.

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Hey is Joel the dud that got the tokay geckos from you, are you going to send that Albino Leucistic Leopard Gecko you said you were going to send me so we can be even ?I bine calling and emailing you and no respone whats going on?I am starting to think your not going to send anything I hope you can prove me wrong before Thursday!!Hope to here from you soon.


Thanks Joel
267-506-3963

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I bine really good to you dude I don't really want to fuck up you rep more then what already is.So I am just trying to get what belongs to me I paid my part but you didn't come throw with yours!!You keep say the same thing over and over and still nothing.LATER


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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:14:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Message about: geckos,Marbled,Panther,Tokay,White-Line (Skunk).
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

dude, ill send your refund before monday. im waiting on money to clear into my account.

On 12/03/2009, Joel Adorno <[email protected]> wrote:

Thrusday and still nothing!!
 
Hey everyone today is march 17 2009 and chris did send me a refund to my paypal account .Thanks for everyone support.Case close
 
yeah i feel your pain

ol' chris sold me 2 "female" boas, both were males, both in real bad shape! will post emails in the next couple of days. really would have rather got nothing than 2 males i dont need, and to top it will have to spend the next 6 months nursing these guys back to health good enough to pass them on to someone who wants a male :(
 
why dont you get your probe out and test them. there both females and ive got pictures of these snakes that show there fine. plus you got them dirt cheap, better yet why dont you post some closeups. ive got some. these snakes were probed right in front of me. you must not know how to sex them properly.
 
here are the snakes... they look so poorly cared for .... whatever........
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plus i sent them to him for 175.00$ shipped overnight. thats basically 50.00$ a snake. whatever dude.
 
Chris posted this on my user profile for everyone to see. Chris, you are not notified when I post on my profile so I will respond here.

memnoch1970 said:
03-19-2009 05:31 AMmemnoch1970
this poster joel has contacted you to remove this post http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=128834 his money was in his paypal account the whole time!!! do you like the drama??? this was a mistake post, it should come down. you guys are so quick to let anyone say what they want. yet when something was admitttly put up here wrong you just let it stay..... joel says he asked you to take this down. why has it not been removed.

First, nobody asked me to remove anything. Second, I couldn't and wouldn't remove it if asked. Joel is responsible for his own posts here. Try reading the rules before posting.

Finally, Even if he did ask me and his request was rejected it would have been a moderating decision based on the site rules. Sending me a message "do you like the drama" is drama I don't have to put up with and don't appreciate the antagonism of your message. Next time you want to ask me a question leave out the garbage and finger pointing and ask.
 
memnoch1970 said:
why dont you get your probe out and test them. there both females and ive got pictures of these snakes that show there fine. plus you got them dirt cheap, better yet why dont you post some closeups. ive got some. these snakes were probed right in front of me. you must not know how to sex them properly.

Now that you got me here, I might as well take a look at this thread as a member. In the series of photos you posted, Taking care of them would include cleaning their cage which would also included this big pile of feces. Including all the crap on the glass and piling them all up in one tank. They are females so they weren't being bred, just piled up in a tank for resale. Just my opinion as a member, of course.

So your statement of well cared for is subjective. Frankly, I would be embarrassed to state that then provide proof with such a image. Again, my humble opinion as a member.



memnoch1970 said:
plus i sent them to him for 175.00$ shipped overnight. thats basically 50.00$ a snake. whatever dude.

Nobody asked or cared about the price. The issue posted about was the sex and condition. I think everyone can understand your focus and point, which is your prerogative, I guess.

Have a good day.
 

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look chris, i have read all the threads on here now, and so i will not get into the song and dance. i have a collection of 36 snakes 28 of them boas. never had a shady deal, never had to "look" someone up. but male boas have larger clearly defined spurs next to their cloaca, and these guys have claws as big as my cat. but no doubt is left when soaking, the one you posted pics of, he had to push so hard to get his urates out that his big ol' double headed hemipenes popped right out. not a pretty sight.
i own 2 business, have a family and a large collection so i will not waste any more time going round with you, posting pics of what i know is true, but if i could post the smell that came out of the plain cardboard box wrapped in duct tape with nothing,no bag no paper for impact protection no wet paper for humitity, just 2 sad snakes huddled up together, if i could post that smell i would.
i am over it chris, i want nothing from you. it was money well spent to rescue these snakes from you.
 
thats not feces ????? its handy foam!!!! look closely its extra handy foam that seeped out from the secured rocks on the background.. once again someone who doesnt know what hes talking about.
 
Hey I just got a call from chris ,that he was going to make something up and post it up on here !!So people don't pay him no mind.
 
joel i said how would you like it if someone posted something untrue about you because you jumped the gun. i didnt say i was gonna post anything here. your friggin money was sent a while ago, and you decided to post here without even seein what happened...
 
joel i said how would you like it if someone posted something untrue about you because you jumped the gun. i didnt say i was gonna post anything here. your friggin money was sent a while ago, and you decided to post here without even seein what happened...

Is it that you paid him back and wanted this thread removed ? Just trying to figure out what he is lying about.
 
Ok I don't have any problems with you,you did send me a a refund the other day.I just want everyone to know that chris did come throw!!!!Everything between me and chris is over and done.Sorry about everything
 
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